Rought Ride

/ Rought Ride #21  
Seems to me I had read that someone came up with an air "bladder" that helped beef up the seat suspension. Anyone hear of such a thing? I gotta find some solution to this. I like the tractor in so many ways.....but the ride sucks. I do not intend to spend on a seat upgrade.....I simply dont put in that kind of hours.

Not sure about an air bladder, but a couple of tennis balls between the seat and the suspension on my L3240 prevented a lot of the jolt of bottoming out. Not sure this will work with your seat configuration though. The L3240 seat is hinged on the front and can be tilted forward.
 
/ Rought Ride #22  
I would look into the seat more. My "suspension" seat had to be freed up long time ago. Then one of the tabs that hold the spring on, broke off. I repaired that and then the other side broke too so I ended up replace both tabs with a bolt. Granted this is on a standard L and not your model.
 
/ Rought Ride #23  
I recently bought a L6060 cab and the factory seat is suppose to handle 265 pounds. Many have posted it bottomed out on them weighing less than that. I weigh right at 240. Dealer ended up replacing with Kubota air ride seat with my paying $400 for the air ride seat installed. Have not run across a field yet but it does not bottom out.
 
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#24  
Today I had a buncha doctor stuff to do......so I was running late when I got to my property.......and I wanted to get some mowing done in a couple of clover food plots. Anyway.......didnt take time to check the air pressure in those rears and persevered some pumishment on a few fields. Got done sooner than I thought.....but was wearing clothes that would get me in trouble if I got them to dirty. (grin).

AFTER I was done......I saw that both rears were at 15 PSI. I bled them down to ten lbs.......but was unsure how low I can go on these (industrial) tires. I'm looking for a little advice here. I did not take time to read the sidewall recommendations. I assume I can go to 6 or 8 PSI before getting into trouble. What say you guys?
 
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/ Rought Ride #25  
AFTER I was done......I saw that both rears were at 15 PSI. I bled them down to ten lbs.......but was unsure how low I can go on these (industrial) tires. I'm looking for a little advice here. I did not take time to read the sidewall recommendations. I assume I can go to 6 or 8 PSI before getting into trouble. What say you guys?

What size are they?
Rear industrial tires (R4's) on my L4330 are 17.4L-24, 6 ply rating. Manual calls for 20 PSI. 10-16.5 6 ply fronts are 20 PSI too.
 
/ Rought Ride #26  
Today I had a buncha doctor stuff to do......so I was running late when I got to my property.......and I wanted to get some mowing done in a couple of clover food plots. Anyway.......didnt take time to check the air pressure in those rears and persevered some pumishment on a few fields. Got done sooner than I thought.....but was wearing clothes that would get me in trouble if I got them to dirty. (grin).

AFTER I was done......I saw that both rears were at 15 PSI. I bled them down to ten lbs.......but was unsure how low I can go on these (industrial) tires. I'm looking for a little advice here. I did not take time to read the sidewall recommendations. I assume I can go to 6 or 8 PSI before getting into trouble. What say you guys?
too low and you can break the bead, and they'll deflate, if they have tubes, pop the tubes. also, they can spin on the rim, and get damaged..
 
/ Rought Ride #27  
I have now owned my Grand L 3560 HSTC for about 3 years. From day one.....I was dissatisfied with the way this tractor bounced me around and otherwise extremely rough riding characteristics.

Today I had allot to get done ahead of a rain coming in. ****.....but it felt like crap driving this tractor.....over even relatively smooth ground. My JD products never seemed to provide this kinda treatment. Anyone else? What gives with these tractors? I'm getting too **** old to get bounced around like this. To top it off....the suspension seat is always bottomed out with my 225 lb frame. What can be done?

is this your first tractor?
 
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#28  
is this your first tractor?

I've owned a few JD CUT's prior to this.....and been around tractors all my life. Grew up behind the parts counter at my dad's Ford tractor biz. Nope.....not my first rodeo. I'm 73 years old.....and this ride is hard on this body. This sucka rides ROUGH compared to any other I have driven.....from N Fords to 9000 fords and lots of green tractors too.

Only Major complaint on this tractor......if you discount the low hanging hydraulic hoses.
 
/ Rought Ride #29  
sounds like getting a quality air ride seat is your best bet, as mentioned. hope you find the right one, am sure other members can steer you in the direction
let us know what you find. have considered for my zero turn, but no need right now. best regards

they're high. i know nothing about them, heard good reports on this name
https://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200575837_200575837
 
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#30  
sounds like getting a quality air ride seat is your best bet, as mentioned. hope you find the right one, am sure other members can steer you in the direction
let us know what you find. have considered for my zero turn, but no need right now. best regards

they're high. i know nothing about them, heard good reports on this name
https://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200575837_200575837


^ You may be right. I stopped by my dealer today.....and he said something about $900 for the Kubota air ride. Seems like allot of money for the hours I spend in this seat. Gonna try other things first......but who knows. It really is hard on this old frame.
 
/ Rought Ride #31  
understand. wise to do your homework & shop around. once you find what you need, in 6 mo you'll forget the investment & will be able to enjoy your seat time
let us know what you come up with & give a field report
you may consider making a new post re: air ride seat in owning operating or attachments
it may come down to K's air ride seat vs the Grammer. not sure if Kubota's price includes installation, something to consider.

bet you'll get a lot of feedback best regards
 
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/ Rought Ride #32  
I got my L6060 hstc about two months back. Mechanical seat at least mine was a joke. Had I drove one on rough ground before buying would have not bought the tractor. It is my third Kubota with a B2710 and there is very little movement to that seat only springs on the rear but it is much better ride than the L6060 was. It was suggested to install larger springs and that might have been wise but dealer split the cost with me. One reason his tech tested my seat and said yes, it is a problem. He weighed less than 200 pounds. I have a M6800 also with mechanical seat (open station) and it works well for me, wondered if it would fit as it has held up well for 20 years other than seat itself replacement.
If not mistaken Kubota on the L cab is a Grammer (think have it spelled correctly) but you must be very careful on the clearance in that cab. The Kubota air ride seat the arms are very tight to the sides with the pto switch just being cleared. Be aware the air ride seats don't flip forward nor rotate if either of those matter. The air ride seat is a total package so you are buying and installing from the floor up. Be sure you are getting the installed price with your Kubota dealer. When it stops raining here will be able to give better feed back on the air ride but for now two weeks have gotten from 1/2 to 4 inches of rain I think all but 1 day. No hard ground to run over.
I really believe Kubota needs to admit they have a seat that a problem. To begin with they should work as rated which they don't publish but they are for up to 265 ponds and have heard many who weigh less tell how they bottom out on them. Kubota would not stand behind their seat...first issue in three Kubota's ever had an issue with and no back up by Kubota. Did say before buying would be my last one, thought it would be due to my age. lol
 
/ Rought Ride #33  
...Had I drove one on rough ground before buying....
Reminds me of buying my Tacoma!! The difference between the TRD Sport Package and regular 4x4 was very evident driving on rough roads that we test drove them on. IF I was 40 years younger, I would love that stiff suspension... give me that smoother ride! :)
 
/ Rought Ride #34  
I wonder what farmers did for 100 years or so, with those steel seats with the large U shaped spring they used?. maybe people were tougher back then?.. maybe they just drove at a slower, comfortable speed?..
 
/ Rought Ride #35  
It isn't only the larger among us. I purchased my third Kubota last fall, a 4710. I weigh 160. On rough patches, my seat can bottom out if I am driving more than very low speed. I spent some time fooling with the adjustment and finally got it to where I wasn't gonna get tossed up in the air if I hit an unexpected rough patch [for whatever speed I was going]. Only time I have trouble now is when I drive a quarter mile up our dirt road to my 93-yr-old neighbor's to help with whatever. I have to slow down to basically a crawl in areas or my seat belt is tested to the max and the seat bottoming out. I can live with crawling along now and then better than spending big bucks on a different seat.

By the way, my previous-most Kubota, an L3000, didn't have this issue on the same terrain and roads I am still operating on.
 
/ Rought Ride #36  
I wonder what farmers did for 100 years or so, with those steel seats with the large U shaped spring they used?. maybe people were tougher back then?.. maybe they just drove at a slower, comfortable speed?..

Tougher? Most likely. Farming was hard work. Still is, but not as much.

Less overweight? Most definately. I’ve seen some pics of my ancestor farmers. All are very thin? Probably because worked from sun up to sun down, and labor intensive.

Drove slower? Most likely, tractors were not near as powerful as modern ones.
 
/ Rought Ride #37  
I wonder what farmers did for 100 years or so, with those steel seats with the large U shaped spring they used?. maybe people were tougher back then?.. maybe they just drove at a slower, comfortable speed?..

died at an earlier age. what was the average mortality age 100 yrs ago for males? low-mid 50's?
 
/ Rought Ride #38  
I wonder what farmers did for 100 years or so, with those steel seats with the large U shaped spring they used?. maybe people were tougher back then?.. maybe they just drove at a slower, comfortable speed?..

Believe it or not some of those old seats beat the heck out of the ones on my Kubota. I have one here that is a 1949 and the pan seat on it rides smooth. It has a big spring over a post that gives it the nice ride. On the Kubota how do I free up the cheap suspension under my seat. I think it is frozen up
 
/ Rought Ride #39  
also those older classics were much heavier, longer & wider wheel base. much smoother.
& yes, the operators were a lot tougher than you or me
 
/ Rought Ride #40  
also those older classics were much heavier, longer & wider wheel base. much smoother.
& yes, the operators were a lot tougher than you or me
also, with no seatbelts, they had to go slower, else get thrown out of the seat, not a good feeling!. I always noticed there is a speed limit on rough terrain, go too fast, and it can hurt!..
 

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