Rough Ride

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foggy1111

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Kubota L 3560 HSTC, 805 Loader
Today I disked a few acres for my food plot habit. I traded my JD 3320 for the Kubota L3560 HSTC last fall......and like many of the good things about the grand L. Still.....I think my old JD 3320 had a far better "ride". Seems I really get jostled about by this tractor. I have loaded rear tires....just as in my old JD......but perhaps they over inflated the tires??? or something. Dunno....but the ride gets irritating. The seat is adjusted to the max.....and barely does the job of suspending my 225 lb frame.

Maybe I'm just getting old.....but this tractor does not seem to ride as nice as my old JD. Any suggestions??? Thanks.

I've also noticed the operation of the loader and my grapple is much more "harsh" than in the JD product. Maybe I got some adjustments to do?? The extra performance is hands-down better.....but a few tweaks might make my day more enjoyable.
 
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I'd start with checking tire pressures and adjust them if necessary. Smaller diameter tires will generally have a rougher ride than larger diameter, and R4 industrial tires tend to ride rougher than R1 tires due to having more plies.
 
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I'd start with checking tire pressures and adjust them if necessary. Smaller diameter tires will generally have a rougher ride than larger diameter, and R4 industrial tires tend to ride rougher than R1 tires due to having more plies.

Thanks. I did have Industrial Tires (Galaxy) on that JD 3320 and have Industrials on the Boata too. The tires on my 3560 are a bit larger than the Deere tires. Just seems to buck more than the Deere. Maybe tire pressure will change things......and I have not checked it.
 
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The rougher ride is one of the first things I noticed when I got my Kubota. Kubota rides on 16.9 X 30 tires whereas the John Deere is on 14.9 X 24. I checked the air pressure on the Kubota but it was the same as the Deere. Only thing I could figure is that the Kubota is a good bit narrower than the John Deere so that relative seat movement from the rear tire dropping down into a badger hole was greater.
 
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I use my Kubota M6040 to do quite a bit of disking. My rear tires are Firestone - R1 - Rimguard loaded - 16.9 x 28 - around 16psi. I'm quite able to maintain my position in the seat w/out a seat belt.

With the disk on the 3-point the tractor weighs around 9850 pounds.

Your rear tire pressure just might be too high.

Then again - the way a tractor will respond to disking will have a lot to do with the land being disked.

My land is virgin and generally pretty smooth & level.
 
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Tire ply and diameter will make a difference.

OEM Kubota seats generally suck when it comes to comfort...JD has way better options.
 
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As said above......I am going to check that tire pressure and may air down the rears a bit. The seat does lack enough travel to quell some of the rough bumps. Also, I think I will make a greater "rollout" on the itelepanell.....may help with some of the jerkiness. Also my loader seems too jerky at times......as compared to JD stuff. OTOH its much more powerful and responsive.

I suppose you cant have it both ways. Grin. Kinda hate to complain......but I do note some comfort differences.....and I'm getting soft in my old age. ;).
 
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As said above......I am going to check that tire pressure and may air down the rears a bit.

Wit Rimguard loaded R4s, you may not want to do that. Lower pressure can cause them to leak around the bead which can make the tire slip on the rim.
 
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Thanks Diggin it
 
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Was running my disk on Thursday to work-in some fertilizer and get ready to plant some soybeans. I really like my hydraulic top link for change on the fly. Those Pats Quick Hitch on the telescoping drag links simlplify imlement changes. Clean A/C with nice tunes in the cab....and no ticks......and I'm grumbling about a rough ride....lol. :D.
 
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If you want a rough ride, put Duo chains on all 4 tires and then go plow snow on pavement! :eek: It will literally make the whole tractor bounce if I get the right combo of speed and something going on. I changed out the front chains for 2-link ladders this winter as I lost one of my duos in one of our many ice storms and did not notice until too late. Found it in the spring, but my place is so hilly that I need chains on the fronts or I get nowhere in the winter. That smoothed out the ride a ton. Eventually when the rears wear out or get damaged I will probably change to ladders on the back too. The seats are not the greatest on these. I adjusted mine way up on spring tension also and it finally got to the point where it would not bounce my head into the cab roof.
 
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If that Tandem Disc Harrow were mine I would move the two rear gangs further apart by loosening the U-bolts and sliding the U-bolts further out the rear frame tubes. Lube and a dead blow mallet eases the process.

https://www.tractorbynet.com/forums...-point-hitch-mounted.html?highlight=adjusting

Likely good advice. Been putting off more adjustments after getting the front gangs and angle right. I think the adjustment you said is in my future. The disk does a good job for me....and my tractor kinda "toys" with it in most conditions.....as I can bury it to the hubs in most soils. Still.....it does need to be a bit more even after disking. Today I dragged the previous work.....and things came our pretty nice. A few more tweaks and I will have it down.......I hope. ;).

If I can keep my ground speed up....the disk as currently set up works pretty good.......but my land is quite rough in places (old timberland).....so its hard to run equipment at high ground speeds if you value your teeth. ;). It gets better with time.
 
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I noticed that mine seems to ride a little rough compared to my dad's MF. Yet, I'm setting in air conditioning and avoiding all the bugs, so I will take the extra few bumps for all the added comforts.
 
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Mayhaps some may forget - its a tractor not a Cadillac el Dorado.
 
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My dad and his buddies all said I was driving a Cadillac not a real tractor. :laughing:
 
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My first tractor was a 1982 brand new Ford 1700 4WD. I traded it in 2009 for a brand new Kubota M6040 4WD. After four or more hours "in the saddle" my back may start hurting. I'm only in average physical shape and what I do can be rough and jarring. So it's kind of what I've always expected. That's why I've never considered an air ride seat. It won't change the projects that I do.

Part of what I consider to be safe is based upon what I feel as I sit on the tractor seat. Safety over comfort.........
 
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I have a Kubota L3800 and I experience some rocking when disking if the ground is rough. I have the SSQA so I just drop the bucket on the edge of the field and it improves the ride. My uncle has an 80’s JD 1050 without a loader. It has a longer wheel base and has a much smoother ride on rough ground. The distance between the operators seat and the front wheel is noticeable longer than my tractor. If you can’t remove then front implement then just keep it as low to the ground as you can. Good luck.
 
 
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