Rotella T6 gallons

[rScotty]

I just bought some motor oil at NAPA to do an oil change - three gallons of Rotella T6 5w-40 Full Synthetic Heavy Duty Diesel in the blue gallon containers. When I opened them, I was kind of surprised that the containers didn't have the expected aluminum foil seal under the cap. I think the gallons I've bought in the past always did. No sign of tampering; just no seal.
Is that the way Rotella does it now?

rScotty

 

[stumblinhorse]

They have a breakaway collar ring now. Not sure what is is called. But like a soda bottle. I like it better.

 

[rScotty]

Have you bought any T6 recently? Do they have that peel-off secondary seal?
Dang, I sure hope not.. I poured the oil in my engine & am now wondering if it really was what it was said to be? I hope someone can ease my mind.

It seemed Ok, although more viscous than I expected from a 5wt on a 50 degree day. Last time I usedMobil 1 and I think they had a peel-off.
rScotty

 

[stumblinhorse]

Have you bought any T6 recently? Do they have that peel-off secondary seal?
Dang, I sure hope not.. I poured the oil in my engine & am now wondering if it really was what it was said to be? I hope someone can ease my mind.

It seemed Ok, although more viscous than I expected from a 5wt on a 50 degree day. Last time I usedMobil 1 and I think they had a peel-off.
rScotty

Yes, I have used 12 gallons this year. Have 4 gallons left for next change. None have the foil. Like it better, I always worried about “foil in the oil.” Poet.

 

[rScotty]

Yes, I have used 12 gallons this year. Have 4 gallons left for next change. None have the foil. Like it better, I always worried about “foil in the oil.” Poet.

Thanks, that makes me feel better. I also used some old work contacts and put in a questioin to Shell technical dept. For decades I use Shell Rotella 15w40 conventional and it worked fine. But I do like synthetic oils.

 

[Hay Dude]

You do have to watch for missing foil on DEF. It is purchased, dumped in DEF tank, then refilled with water & returned.

 

[Sprinkler Fitter]

You do have to watch for missing foil on DEF. It is purchased, dumped in DEF tank, then refilled with water & returned.

I usually fill with Def when I’m filling the diesel at the pump but not always so that is good to know.

 

[stumblinhorse]

You do have to watch for missing foil on DEF. It is purchased, dumped in DEF tank, then refilled with water & returned.

I can always tell if it’s real def by the residue from the huge spill I make with the jug on the side of the truck!

 

[pmsmechanic]

You do have to watch for missing foil on DEF. It is purchased, dumped in DEF tank, then refilled with water & returned.

Now you have me thinking. Would just straight water work in place of DEF.

 

[Hay Dude]

Now you have me thinking. Would just straight water work in place of DEF.

NO

 

[Hay Dude]

I can always tell if it’s real def by the residue from the huge spill I make with the jug on the side of the truck!

Yeah, but you have to spill it first to see if its’ real? Then if it’s not, you have to return it. Who wants to go through all that crap?
Best to check cap & seal before you buy!

 

[WinterDeere]

You do have to watch for missing foil on DEF. It is purchased, dumped in DEF tank, then refilled with water & returned.

I always worry about this with Pennzoil oil, as they also use no foil under the cap. Mobil1 uses foil, so if it's missing, you know someone monkeyed with it.

The way Amazon and Walmart take returns, seems likely there's some sleeze bag out there buying expensive full-synthetic, using some or all it, and refilling the jugs with a cheaper or even used product before returning. Seems far-fetched, but I've seen people go to greater lengths for less gains, all to avoid an honest day's work.

 

[5030]

They have a breakaway collar ring now. Not sure what is is called. But like a soda bottle. I like it better.

So do I actually. I either get mine in a 55 gallon drum (no seal) or in 2.5 gallon jugs (sealing ring) The more you buy (quantity) the less it costs.

 

[MoKelly]

The more you buy (quantity) the less it costs.

This is exactly what my wife says when she buys shoes on sale!!

 

[4570Man]

Here’s a new bottle of rotella that I bought last week and one I’ve had for years. They both have a seal ring like a coke bottle. The local Napa sells them in the original cardboard shipping boxes with 3 gallons per box.

 

[rScotty]

Here’s a new bottle of rotella that I bought last week and one I’ve had for years. They both have a seal ring like a coke bottle. The local Napa sells them in the original cardboard shipping boxes with 3 gallons per box. View attachment 830803

Good to know. I'm feeling lots better The thing that bothered me with I took the caps off my Shell T6 is that the seal ring didn't separate from the cap like it does on a plastic coke bottle. The seal ring and cap were still one intact piece with no breaks when I recapped it. In fact, that was what got me started on this whole thread.

No answer so far from Shell Tech dept.

 

[WinterDeere]

I took the caps off my Shell T6 is that the seal ring didn't separate from the cap like it does on a plastic coke bottle. The seal ring and cap were still one intact piece with no breaks when I recapped it.

Same with Pennzoil. Not too hard to uncap, drain, refill with something else, and return to store.

That's enough to make me grab a brand with foil seals (eg. Mobil1), when I have a choice of brands within the weight I need, but not enough to prevent me from buying Pennzoil or Rotella when there's no other choice.

 

[stumblinhorse]

You all must live in some shady places. With all this buying refilling and returning stuff going on. It is a $25/gallon diesel engine oil. It is not the good whiskey in my parents liquor cabinet when I was a kid.

 

[4570Man]

You all must live in some shady places. With all this buying refilling and returning stuff going on. It is a $25/gallon diesel engine oil. It is not the good whiskey in my parents liquor cabinet when I was a kid.

I’ve never actually experienced that problem but that’s over $100 in oil for the average diesel pickup. People will definitely rip you off for $100.

 

[stumblinhorse]

I’ve never actually experienced that problem but that’s over $100 in oil for the average diesel pickup. People will definitely rip you off for $100.

An average diesel pickup cost $80k…. But yes there are people that rip off people for $100, but doing it when they change their own oil to another person changing their own oil…. I hope those people spent eternity smoking a cigar made from my septic.