Front-End Loader Rock & debris bucket

[KYDan]

I have been looking for a rock and debris bucket for my MX5100 and found this manufacturer doing a search, Hayspear.com. Here is a link to the bucket.Rock rake and bucket has removable ends is 84" long

I need a 72" bucket and they can make one for less than the 84" shown on the website link.

I am hoping to find someone that has had some experience with this company and can advise me about the quality and functionality of their products.

 

[KYDan]

As a followup to my prior message my plan is to use this as a poor man's rock picker. I intend to rake the area first with a Bush Hog scraper scarifier with just the scarifies extended to rip the area and then followup with the rock bucket/rake to pick up the rocks. Can anyone provide me with some thoughts of the plan and why it may not work? Also, I am clearing some brush areas and I thought the bucket would be ideal for that project.

 

[KYDan]

I am attempting to keep this thread alive hoping that someone on the list may have some experience with this. I also have another question somewhat related that someone may be able to address. I am looking at some Bush Hog brand scraper scarifier boxes. The 2 boxes that I am primarily interested in are the retractable blade box RBX 780 and the rollover box model # RO 720. Any information regarding these would be helpful.

 

[jenkinsph]

Don't know about this company but I do have a rock bucket for my 110tlb, it is 66" wide and is quite a load. Don't think I would want it to be much larger as you need to shake them to drop the dirt, I suspect a heavier wider model would be abusive to the fel.

 

[KYDan]

Don't know about this company but I do have a rock bucket for my 110tlb, it is 66" wide and is quite a load. Don't think I would want it to be much larger as you need to shake them to drop the dirt, I suspect a heavier wider model would be abusive to the fel.

Thanks for the response, I have the LA 844 loader on my MX5100 and the lift capacity at 500mm forward which is the actual lift capacity is 1852 lbs. I have the 72" HD bucket which is a lot heavier than the standard and it lifts a full load of rock, dirt, etc. without any issues. Since I plan to use this a rock picker of sorts after I have ripped the area I can test it at any point in the process for capacity. If I pick up the load and it appears "squirrelly" I can always dump part of the load. I am leaning towards Washburn bucket, but I am waiting until after the farm show to see everything else that is available.

Thanks again for the response.

 

[jenkinsph]

Thanks for the response, I have the LA 844 loader on my MX5100 and the lift capacity at 500mm forward which is the actual lift capacity is 1852 lbs. I have the 72" HD bucket which is a lot heavier than the standard and it lifts a full load of rock, dirt, etc. without any issues. Since I plan to use this a rock picker of sorts after I have ripped the area I can test it at any point in the process for capacity. If I pick up the load and it appears "squirrelly" I can always dump part of the load. I am leaning towards Washburn bucket, but I am waiting until after the farm show to see everything else that is available.

Thanks again for the response.

If your loader is rated for 1850 lbs then a 66" rock bucket would be about right. The issue is more about the stress while shaking the dirt out of the bucket.

 

[creekbend]

Just a thought? I have a Kubota L4400 with a LA703A loader. The bucket is 72 inches. I installed a tooth bar made by W.R.Long which has 8 teeth. This set up enables me to dig under the rocks and the tooth bar also helps in pushing and lifting the rocks into the bucket. This set up may not be suitable for your intentions, but it works for me. Just trying to help.

 

[KYDan]

If your loader is rated for 1850 lbs then a 66" rock bucket would be about right. The issue is more about the stress while shaking the dirt out of the bucket.

I omitted in my posts that these are custom buckets and I priced and probably will purchase a 72" one. They will build it to work with the Kubota QA system.

 

[KYDan]

Just a thought? I have a Kubota L4400 with a LA703A loader. The bucket is 72 inches. I installed a tooth bar made by W.R.Long which has 8 teeth. This set up enables me to dig under the rocks and the tooth bar also helps in pushing and lifting the rocks into the bucket. This set up may not be suitable for your intentions, but it works for me. Just trying to help.

Thanks, I already have 2 of the toolbars from Iowa Farm Machinery Sales. And, they work great for digging and working for me. I use the standard one for digging and the flat one for leveling. I am extending my runway and the flat one works great for that, but is not stout enough for general work. I plan to use the rock bucket for a rock picker and for brush removal where I am running new fence. It has removable end panels that will allow the limbs to extend past the ends of the bucket. I am going to the National Farm Machinery Show first to see what else is available and hopefully get some prices. I sent a message to Bush Hog about their box scraper series to see if they will have any of them displayed at the show. I am leaning towards the extendable scarifier 78" model as it is close to 900 lbs. and I plan to use it to rip areas and then use the rock bucket to pick out the rocks. I have been rock picking by hand for years. We have Eden Shale soil here and it seems to grow rocks!

 

[jenkinsph]

Dan,
What is the smallest rock size you want to pick?

Mine has 3" spacings and that leaves alot of rocks. Works well enough to remove the larger ones but small rocks will fall through. I have considered getting a power rake to use with mine for the small stuff but don't have enough use for one yet.

 

[KYDan]

The bucket bars are spaced on 3" centers which actually leaves about 2.5" between the bars. I will have to use my planned approach to see if I need to do anything more to achieve my goals. I would really like to have a 3 point hitch system to do this as it would provide more effective use of power, but I don't think there are any small systems available for this. I am planning to scarify the soil to about 6" depth and then use my improvised rock picker to followup after that. It remains to be seen how well it works. I have over the years used loaders to pop the bigger rocks up and then get them into the loader using spud bars, etc. I am not able to move the bigger ones now like that and I don't want to pick up the smaller ones by hand anymore now either. When I bought this particular parcel of land it had been dozed rather ineffectively and has a lot of dips, big rocks and other issues. Basically, it is a pasture renovation of sorts and an attempt to make more hayfields available. Also, I am mining some rocky fill dirt for the runway expansion and using composted pond muck for the topsoil. I have increased it from an original length of 500' to just shy of 800' now and hope to eventually reach 1,000. It is 100' wide.

 

[teg]

I wonder if a Rake would help you with the smaller rocks?

King Kutter Yard Rake

 

[KYDan]

Possibly, i am going to try the new system and evaluate my needs/wants as the projects progress. I already have a good, heavy duty lift chain harrow and I may see how that does first.

 

[RPW]

Just for comparison I use a Bradco rock bucket and the tines have about 2" spacing. Works pretty well as long as I loosen the soil abit. I do that with my box blade with the scarafiers down all the way. As long as i don't dig too deep with the bucket shaking the dirt out is minimal.

 

[Cat_Driver]

If i'ts custom have them make the spacing 1"-2" apart. 3" will let a lot of good size rock drop through.

 

[KYDan]

The spacing is 3" on center which is about 2 1/2" total distance. I have heavy clay soil here and I think anything smaller than that would be very problematic with soil remaining in the bucket. Even 2 1/2" may create issues. Sandy soil or lighter soils would work pretty well with less distance between the forks.

 

[KML]

I've never used a rock bucket but just bought a VERY used power rake primarily for rock removal and have been very happy with the results. With the amount of surfacing work you're doing it may be worth looking into.

New they are pricey but if you keep your eyes out serviceable ones can be found pretty cheap.

Here is a pic of the results. It missed a few but with as wet as the soil was I was impressed.

 

[F250DSLPWR]

I bought the wildkat grapple with rock bottom bucket and paid what you are showing for pricing of just the bucket.

 

[Cantoo]

I only handpick big rocks now. http://www.lawnsite.com/showthread.php?t=184425&highlight=stones

1st pic. I built a redneck harley rake using my Kubota roto tiller and a landscape rake. It actually works pretty good. I remove the back guard and scrapped the 3 point hitch off the rake. The stones hit the tines and fall straight down then get covered by the dirt that goes thru the tines. The bigger stones flip up and sit on top. Took a bit of playing around but it works and saves us time.

2nd pic This is my culivator. I moved all the teeth to the front two bars and put them closer together. I added a 4"x4" angle iron to the back bracket. You can see the two trailer screw jacks attached to the bar. This allows me to raise the levelling bar to level soil. I can set the teeth to go as deep as I want and the levelling bar will level everything. I can also set the depth with the guage wheels. By raising the teeth and lowering the back bar it will drag all the stones to one spot then lift it up to leave them. I can also move soil from high spots to low spots with the back bar.
I have stone buckets too.

 

[Code54]

I would take a look at Wildkat attachments as previously mentioned if you see something they make that would fit your requirements. They seem like a good company that can and will work with you.
I bought a "rock grapple" from them and it is VERY solid and works great on my 5100. It is about 100 and some lbs heavier than my 72"HD bucket and it is only a 48" model. The bucket is also a bit longer so the weight even feels like a little bit more than it really is. I would also think hard about getting one a bit smaller than the 72" bucket width you are used to. The additional leverage and weight hanging out there may surprise you.
Good luck with your purchase