Right to Privacy

[FallbrookFarmer]

It's HIPAA, Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act.

Anyone who thinks AZ is the primary location for communications analysis is misinformed.

Not Ft Huachuca?

 

[dave1949]

As you probably would guess, Yes I wouldn't have ANY problem with a "literal" interpretation of the Constitution
While Wal-Mart, ATT,TOYOTA,etc, all gather marketing info on us, Only government has the power to imprison you.
BTW Are you getting soaked?

The rain just ended - finally - after 2 /1/2 days and nights. The heaviest rain was to our south and east. We had hours and hours of light misty drizzle with some heavy showers now and then.

With a literal interpretation, not much of our privacy would be protected I fear, in the modern context of electronic records.
Dave.

 

[MikePA]

Not Ft Huachuca?

The HQ of the Puzzle Palace is in Ft. George G. Meade, MD. Ft. Huachuca does MI. No idea if they also do commint or sigint.

 

[dave1949]

Dave, you wrote " If one had a medical card on their person, like a debit card, the ability for a doctor to swipe it and obtain your medical history could be life saving."

I agree with you..In a perfect world it would be great to be able to load all our medical records on the internet but this is far from a perfect world and there are just too many opportunities for government misuse and abuse as well as hackers but I see no reason we could not all carry a card that has a magnetic strip on it that is updated every time we visit our doc or get medical care. We would have control of it...on our person that way and it would be a lot more secure. I feel less free everyday...I don't know about the rest of you but that is how I feel.

Sure, or why not a medical thumb drive. Something with the capacity to store compressed images even. Or, it could provide basic medical info plus a very complex cypher key to decrypt your records stored online requiring the key and device presence simultaneously.

There are probably no systems that are immune to hacking but if you put the right minds to work on the problem, extremely secure systems are possible. Who could (or would want to) burn hours or days of supercomputer time to find out John Doe had a hang nail removed
Dave.

 

[MikePA]

Who could (or would want to) burn hours or days of supercomputer time to find out John Doe had a hang nail removed

The same people who pulled the hardcopy FBI files of their political opponents.

Being charitable with someone elses money is no virtue.

 

[Reg]

I hope that this is not a "political" question, I am posing it as
a question of Constitutionality.
Some have interpreted the Constitution to say that we have a "right to privacy".
If that is in fact the case, what will happen to our "right to privacy" after the government begins to administer our health care?
Will it have to be shared with the IRS?
Congressional Committees?
Will your Doctor have to share "confidential" health info?
I know that there are some physicians and a lot of very intelligent people on this board.
Your Thoughts?

As I understand it (perhaps wrongly) the US government will NOT be "administering" anyone's health care.
Providing new or different mechanisms for obtaining insurance to cover the cost of health treatments is NOT administering health care.
Changes in regulations governing the practices of the insurance companies is also NOT administrating the health care of the individuals covered by that insurance, etc.

and yes, this thread IS likely to devolve into political rhetoric - if it hasn't already.

 

[brin]

As I understand it (perhaps wrongly) the US government will NOT be "administering" anyone's health care.
Providing new or different mechanisms for obtaining insurance to cover the cost of health treatments is NOT administering health care.
Changes in regulations governing the practices of the insurance companies is also NOT administrating the health care of the individuals covered by that insurance, etc.

and yes, this thread IS likely to devolve into political rhetoric - if it hasn't already.

Think about it....the government panel has no doctors on it and even if it did they would be paid for and owned by the government. They say they are going to decide and advise doctors as to the best and most effective treatments and procedures but do not forget they have 70 Million baby boomers getting ready to enroll in Medicare and have to control costs...so their incentive will be to reccomend inexpensive treatments and procedures. Google Ezekiel Emanuel complete lives system and open your mind to what they are up to..FREEDOM EDEN: Ezekiel Emanuel: COMPLETE LIVES SYSTEM

 

[dave1949]

The same people who pulled the hardcopy FBI files of their political opponents.

Being charitable with someone elses money is no virtue.

No cyphers or supercomputers involved there, what is your point? The constitution says we will have a government. It's our job to make sure it is what it is supposed to be. If the FBI is not securing it's files, or is actually blackmailing citizens as J. Edgar did for 40 years, we aren't doing our jobs.

Dave.

 

[FallbrookFarmer]

As I understand it (perhaps wrongly) the US government will NOT be "administering" anyone's health care.
Providing new or different mechanisms for obtaining insurance to cover the cost of health treatments is NOT administering health care.
Changes in regulations governing the practices of the insurance companies is also NOT administrating the health care of the individuals covered by that insurance, etc.

and yes, this thread IS likely to devolve into political rhetoric - if it hasn't already.

Perhaps we can skate on admittedly thin ice a while longer
I believe you probably are correct in pointing out that the government will not be administering health care (INITIALLY)
My concern, and if you look at some of the posts from some of our cousins in the UK, you will see what was so aptly described as "mission creep"
How about twenty years from now? If any of us are still around, will we recognize what is being described as a limited intervention into the insurance market?

 

[Reg]

Think about it....the government panel has no doctors on it and even if it did they would be paid for and owned by the government. They say they are going to decide and advise doctors as to the best and most effective treatments and procedures but do not forget they have 70 Million baby boomers getting ready to enroll in Medicare and have to control costs...so their incentive will be to reccomend inexpensive treatments and procedures. Google Ezekiel Emanuel complete lives system and open your mind to what they are up to..FREEDOM EDEN: Ezekiel Emanuel: COMPLETE LIVES SYSTEM

Same applies to the old (now previous) system.
ARMIES of clerical dudes at the HMOs blocking treatments and denying claims.
Have they all been through medical school ? I doubt that they have.
They "save" the insurance companies a LOT of money every year.
Cost containment is nothing new - ask anyone who has tried to get a warranty repair recently.

Now, if someone has a medical procedure/treatment and it is paid for under a government funded insurance policy, but they then claim it as a tax deduction......
Hmmm, maybe I wouldn't mind the IRS finding out (being TOLD) about that.