Residential Landscaping Pricing

/ Residential Landscaping Pricing #21  
I know basements are common in many parts of the country, especially up north, and I think they're a very good idea, but you'd be hard put to find one in Texas that was built in the last 50 years.

Bird
 
/ Residential Landscaping Pricing #22  
Re: Basements

Bird, there are lots of basements in Texas. This year they are dry, but most years they are just all full of water!!! /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif
 
/ Residential Landscaping Pricing #23  
Re: Basements

You're sure right about that; don't have to worry about water in the basement now. And I do know where there are lots of houses with basements, but very few built in recent years; at least in the Dallas/Ft. Worth area.

Bird
 
/ Residential Landscaping Pricing #24  
I got in on this discussion kind of late, but we are a landscaping co. with a 2710 and a older Massey tractor. We have a couple of box blades plus a 3 point trencher, a post hole auger, a tiller, a cultivator, and a (seeding)drill, along with some other equipment that we put in sprinkler systems with (a couple of ditch witch vibratory plows). I guess I am trying to qualify my answer to your question here. We live in a fairly small market, but keep very busy. Basically we charge about $45.oo an hour per tractor and operator. If we have one tractor working and another man on the ground running a shovel it might go up to about $60.00 an hour. All this very to some degree depending on how big or small the job is and what all is involved. Example: if we were back filling a new house and then putting a new lawn along with a sprinkler system the whole package might be less than a normal hourly rate. We go in and bid every job to the hour, and if we end up taking less time getting it done we will come down on the original price. And we NEVER ever charge more than we bid. It is very good for business to tell a customer that the job you did them ended up costing them 50 to 100 dollars less than they expected, and it is only fair. Learning to bid the job to start with is the trick, and if you have been running a tractor very long at all you probably have a better idea than you might think. We haven't lost any money yet on a job, but we learned after time and experience that we were in this to make money and to not cut things to darn close. As far as the hourly rate, it just depends on the market, like everything else. I know 50 miles to the north of us is a fairly large city with unlimited building going on and their rates are 20 to 30 dollars higher than ours. Why don't we go up there and work more, because you add in 2 hours of driving plus gas and it gets less worth it. Also I just like working in a smaller town. Sorry if this got a little long. If you have any other questions feel free to contact me at my e-mail address anytime.
 
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#25  
Glen B., thanks for the detailed info. It's digesting... I'll probably have some questions later. /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

Mark
 
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Mark, Just to be honest there is a downside to this landscaping. I spent practically the whole day on the end of a shovel today in about 80% humidity. Some days you just have to get off the tractor and do the other stuff too. Yes we have hired hands, but they were working with my partner. I just drawed the short stick today I guess.
 
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Cant always get the gravy!! I was moving dirt last night until 11:30 when it started pouring rain. I almost got all the dirt moved now it will have to wait a couple of days for it to dry out.
Gordon
 
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#28  
Not me. That's why I tell people I do "tractor work", not landscaping. I tell them up front that if I have to get off the tractor to do it, it doesn't get done. Now, if only my wife would buy that.

Of course, it doesn't work out that way, anyhow, but it's nice to get things started that way.

Mark
 
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We had 2 inches of rain last night. The kind that came down so hard that it packs the dirt down, but I am for all purposes shut down for the day. Guess I could work on equipment but think we will just call it a long holiday weekend. One of the joys of working for yourself, although my wife and my partners wife seem to requlate our (meaning putting a damper) on our lazy side. Have a good holiday everyone.....glen
 
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Mark
I don't do a lot of tractor work with my L3600, but i don't move it for less than $40.00 per hour, port to port, i have the proper insurance, and keep enough work to have a little extra & some fun. When i bought my unit the dealer gave me a good comparison, an old case backhoe in our area brings $70/hr and can be purchase for the same or less than my 3600 so why give away work at @ $20-25/hr???
 
/ Residential Landscaping Pricing #31  
So Mark you must be pretty busy havn't heard much from you in the last week. How goes the war with with the dirt are you winning I hope? /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif
I'm serously considering the L35 for my upgrade but it has no hydro so here we go again./w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif
Gordon
 
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#32  
I've been working on one of my charity landscaping projects since last Tuesday. Aside from being tired and sore, it was a tremendous success.

We planted about 150 shrubs, 35 or so trees, etc. I dug out a pine stump with the Bradco backhoe that was so big I had to dig a 5-foot deep hole all the way around it, and when we got it loose it took my tractor and an L2550 to pick it up. I was able to get it high enough that it would barely drag, but I needed the other tractor's help to get it high enough to get it onto a pile. Once he helped me raise it, I was able to carry it. Good thing I had 2,000 pounds of backhoe on the tail to counter-balance it.

I moved huge amounts of topsoil, mulch, compost, fill, debris, stumps, etc., pulled more trees, cut and filled lots of grades, augered holes for all the trees and shrubs, and probably lot's of other stuff I can't think of at the moment.

I found out the Michelin XM27's cleats are deep enough and sharp enough to grab curbs and lift the tractor over them easily.

Also, I found out that the toothbar does a passable job of imitating a tiller if you only have to go a few inches deep. And it sure makes brush cleanup a lot easier.

One thing I've decided I don't like about Kubota's is the hour meters move too slow. I used it several hours Tuesday & Wednesday, from 7 in the morning to at least 5 in the evening (with no more than half an hour for lunch) on Thursday thru Sunday, and the hour meter only registered 19.6 hours. Obviously, I need to run the tractor at a higher rpm. I wonder if JimBinMi's hour meter would work on my Kubota - I figure I'd have worked at least another 10 hours or so.

Mark
 
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Mark,

No wonder that when I was looking at used tractors, the Kubota's in general looking much more used than New Hollands with similar hours on them! No joking, I wondered why/how they could look so much more beat up!

Sounds like some kind of Marketing/Sales ploy to me! /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

JimBinMI

We boys and our toys!
 
/ Residential Landscaping Pricing #34  
Kubotas just look more beat up because the owners use them instead of letting them sit around to look at./w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

Bird
 
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If it is some marketing ploy on Kubota's part, I sure am glad they put their smart people in engineering and their dumb ones in marketing. I certainly wouldn't want to encourage the notion that a tractor can't take the punishment well by artificially deflating the number of hours on it, nor would I want to encourgage potential customers to buy used instead of new by not racking up hours as fast as possible. Maybe it's the blue folks that have the smarter marketing guys... /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

BTW, I'm proud of you for your message to the Kubota hater - I just didn't want to perpetuate that thread by saying so there. Joking is one thing - stupidity is quite another. It appears you develop an allergic reaction to it's display, much as I do.

Mark
 
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Hi Mark,

I thought I remembered in a previous post that your Kubota measured pretty close to 1 hr /hr at PTO speed. That seems to be the calibration on mine. I run mine at PTO speed most of the time anyway.

You give NH too much credit. Their engineer just picked the wrong gear out of the catalog and they have been using it ever since! /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif
 
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#37  
Yeah, mine measures hours at PTO speed, but I rarely run it that fast. In fact, I'll bet it never once hit PTO speed all last week. When I'm running the tiller or rotary cutter, I do, but otherwise, I run it just fast enough to do what needs doing without lugging.

Maybe I need a smaller tractor. Hah! /w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif

Mark
 
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Wonder if you need 19.5 hp? Naw, the backhoe wouldn't fit. /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif
 
/ Residential Landscaping Pricing #39  
Mark,

Thanks. I'm trying to be kinder and gentler of late, there are a lot of new members adding daily that don't need to feel "color wars". I will continue to suggest that they look at NH since I believe it's a quality tractor, not that K & JD aren't!

I still have one Orange guy that seems to wait for my posts so he can rip me a new one! If he doesn't loosen up I'll just ignore his posts or spend less time here. /w3tcompact/icons/frown.gif

JimBinMI

We boys and our toys!
 
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Wen,

What make/model is 19.5 hp? Mine is 18.5 hp and it does accept a backhoe! /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

JimBinMI

We boys and our toys!
 

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