removing the MMM

/ removing the MMM #21  
"I think I have read somewhere that the larger Kubota's like the B models have a drive over deck. I don't know for sure which model it is, but I know I read it somewhere."

People hear all kinds of things but most of it is not true and neither is this. There are drive over decks, the MMM for the 7500 etc are not drive over--well--go ahead and you will see what happens. Maybe drive into the pond some and then spray it all down with diesel fuel--sounds like a plan for disaster to me /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif but go right ahead /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif. Hey, let me know the results, I won't hesitate to make fun and laugh /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif and say I told you so. Hey, good luck. J
 
/ removing the MMM #22  
I seem to have no problem pulling or pushing the deck into place. What I have a problem with is attaching the PTO. I just remember having to lay in just the right position, reach in there and start cussin'. After the last time I dread taking it off. Any ideas? /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
 
/ removing the MMM #23  
I put a little 3 wheel dolly under the back center wheels and the MMM rolls very nicely on the concrete floor.
 
/ removing the MMM #24  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I seem to have no problem pulling or pushing the deck into place. What I have a problem with is attaching the PTO. I just remember having to lay in just the right position, reach in there and start cussin'. After the last time I dread taking it off. Any ideas? /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif )</font>

I used to position the PTO into place and when it wouldn't go I would use one hand to turn the blade on the deck. What a pain in the butt, but oh well, the old Yardman didn't even have a PTO.
About a year later I discovered if I change the PTO selector to point to the rear PTO only, the MMM PTO spins freely and self-aligns everytime I attach the MMM PTO. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
The opposite goes for hooking up rear implements. Change the selector to MMM PTO only when hooking up to the rear PTO and everything is so much nicer.

One last tip. Silicone Spray or WD-40 on the PTO splines instead of grease. I original thought it best to keep it greased up, but there is too much drag and dirt collection. Live and learn.
 
/ removing the MMM #25  
The problem that I have with my 60 inch mmm (BX2200) is that it is hard to rotate the left rear anti-scalp roller 90 degrees to roll the deck out. When I try to rotate the wheel it hits on the tractor tire. I have the reverse problem when I re-install the deck.

Does anyone have a trick to eliminate that problem? I have Ag tires and my deck is adjusted according to the manual.

John
 
/ removing the MMM #26  
John,

I have the same problem with my turf tires. I just drop the deck slightly, and then it can be rotated easily.

Jim
 
/ removing the MMM #27  
Jim,

I've tried that but there is still not enough room to rotate the wheel. The dealer told me that the Ag tires are bigger and there is no fix for the problem unless you adjust the front of the mower higher than spec.

John
 
/ removing the MMM #28  
John, I have the bar tires and have no problem turning that rear wheel once I lower the deck about half way. "Just a little" will not do it...
 
/ removing the MMM #29  
<font color="blue"> "I think I have read somewhere that the larger Kubota's like the B models have a drive over deck. I don't know for sure which model it is, but I know I read it somewhere."
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<font color="red"> People hear all kinds of things but most of it is not true and neither is this. There are drive over decks, the MMM for the 7500 etc are not drive over--well--go ahead and you will see what happens. Maybe drive into the pond some and then spray it all down with diesel fuel--sounds like a plan for disaster to me but go right ahead . Hey, let me know the results, I won't hesitate to make fun and laugh and say I told you so. Hey, good luck. J
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Trescrows,

I have the B2910 w/72"MMM and the manual does in fact say that you can drive over the deck to mount/dismount the mower. Here is the procedure straight out of the mower manual.

1. Attach the front link to the deck.
2. Set the mower deck to the minimun cutting height.
3. Put chocks at the mower guage wheels.
4. <font color="red"> Drive over the mower forward. </font>
5. Then it goes on to tell you to attach the linkages and PTO shaft.

But, I don't do that, I usually have my FEL on for something or other, so I use that to raise the tractor, then take the FEL off for mowing. But I may try to see if I can use my floor jack to make it easier. I'm always in favor of easier. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
/ removing the MMM #30  
TresCrows,
I was not saying it was the right thing to do. I surly don't do it with mine but I can tell you they thing out lasted him. Diesel is oil and that surly is what stoped the rust and it got greesed all the time. he used diesel for everything even cuts. I don't remember the deck size but it looked a lot like my 60 inch deck and I don't think it was meant to be drove over but he did it. I think it was 10 years old most likely more. These things are not nearly as brittle as people make them out to be.
He used it as a tractor the way old timers used tractors. He have that thing heck and it just seemed to ask for more.That is what sold me on Bota
 
/ removing the MMM #31  
Bubbajr, I probably did not make it clear I was speaking of the 60 inch MMM common to the 7500, 7510, 7610 and 2410 and probably otrher models. Driving over this deck will cause the deck to bend at the support plate where the rear center wheels are attachd. Further, if you get of center on it the forward castor spindles could punch a hole into your oil pan it appears to me--I ain't gonna try it to find out. On the RH side there is also a bridge support that sits about where the front right wheels would have to pass if centered when going over it.
I cannot speak forthe guy with diesel sprayed on everything--I hate diesel and surely would not want it sprayed on my entire tractor, perhaps it was an older model that did have a drive over deck. There are drive over decks, the one common to the aforementioned tractors is not but as I said, anyone that has one is welcome to give it a try, some folks are not as particular as me /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif. J
 
/ removing the MMM #32  
Jim,

I have tried it in just about every position. The only way I can get the left rear to rotate without hitting the tread is to adjust the front of the mower higher (out of spec.).

I wonder if it depends on the brand of tire that is installed. The tires that came with my BX2200 are Power Lug MAXXIS.
26X12.00 12NHS

John
 
/ removing the MMM #33  
I tried the drive over the deck on my old B-7200. I never did it again. It didn't bend anything that I could see but the deck was harder to hookup after that. Keep in mind that my tires were turf and were not loaded and I didn't have anything else of any weight on it so the machine was quite light and still did something to it.
I did read that the 72" deck is a drive over deck but my dealer doesn't reccomend doing that.
Henro, take your 2910 and pick the front of the BX up in the air and ease it backwards and presto your deck is off without any pulling or dragging. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
/ removing the MMM #34  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( The problem ... is that it is hard to rotate the left rear ... roller ... the wheel it hits on the tractor tire.)</font>

I have a small stud about 2" long and slightly smaller in diameter than the pin in the left rear roller. I always push the pin in from the opposite side so that when removing it I can use the stud as a punch and with a small hammer, tap the pin toward the tire. There is just enough space for the pin to come out. Once the pin is out, the brass rod that the wheel is mounted on can be gently rotated back & forth & pulled down. When putting it back in, it doesn't seem as tight.
 
/ removing the MMM #35  
Boy, after reading all these posts, I realize that the removal and installation of my B2910's 60" deck is a cinch. All I need to do is turn the tractor's front wheels and slide it right out.
 

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