I've got a L2800 with BH75 hoe. My cousin needs about 60-70' of waterline laid at his new house. He has a 16' stock trailer and my TLB will not fit. However, if I remove the loader it will fit. Would you all see any problems in digging this little bit of a trench without the FEL on the tractor. I thought I would be OK if I just go slow and easy. Terrain is flat. Thanks guys.
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It could be done but the FEL does a lot to anchor the front of the machine. I'd look for someone with a utility trailer to haul it over for you.
Its a stock trailer that is rounded in the front. There tractor simply will not fit with the loader attached. My dad has a 27' gooseneck, but it is loaded down with his dozer at the moment for a job on Monday. I might just have to take the loader off and digg some holes in the back yard and see how it does.
CHDinCT
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How far away is it? How about two trips - take the BH off, tote the tractor and FEL over to your cousin's place, drop off the FEL, haul the tractor back to your place, put the BH back on, and head back to his place. Hook the FEL back on and go at it. Again, works if the trip isn't too far.
C6rider
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Just drive the tractor over. You can use the seat time. 
CurlyDave
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Unless the trailer is a gooseneck, it seems to me you could put the FEL bucket in the bed of the truck that tows the trailer. Maybe you could even get it in there with the backhoe...
powerstroke444e
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With out the bucket on it will be a little light in the front. If its close (10mile or less)I would drive it.
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Put the loader bucket in the back of the pick up. Then hook up the trailer and load the tractor.
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16'? THAT SHOULD BE ENOUGH. tHE HOE CAN HAng out the back a little and you can also raise the loader above the tailgate of the truck. The most important thing is that the center of the laod is above the tires. I get my L48s on 16 and 18's no problem and I use my mentioned technique when I have the hoe off and a 6' bush hog on the back. Although the BH75 is smaller than what I use....be aware of boom swing when trailering. I have had that happen and that is why there is a boom swing pin/lock to prevent this. Having the hoe to the side may not be a weight cenetring problem but be careful about the swing, especially if it can hit a tie down chain. Ramp trucks up here are $70 plis 2$ amile so maybe your friend will pay for that if need be as hiring someone would certainly cost more than that to do the job. Oh, and yes, bring the loader, digging anything 4' deep creates massive amounts of backfill which your loader will make quick work out of compared to resetting all the time and using the hoe to backfill. Good luck.
RobS
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Rent a trencher. It'll do a much nicer job on a waterline than your backhoe ever will, and it will fit in the stock trailer!
smilykubota
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I agree with renting a ditch witch.
The rental cost coule be quiet reasonable and much easier and faster results.
When I put in a new water line, a friend of mine borrowed a ditch witch on a bob cat. What a sweet little machine, it crawled up steep hills like its no big deal. Had the job done in a couple of hours. Had I used my tractor, I probably could not finish some of the hill sides.
Good luck.
The rental cost coule be quiet reasonable and much easier and faster results.
When I put in a new water line, a friend of mine borrowed a ditch witch on a bob cat. What a sweet little machine, it crawled up steep hills like its no big deal. Had the job done in a couple of hours. Had I used my tractor, I probably could not finish some of the hill sides.
Good luck.
EddieWalker
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I agree with renting a trancher. It's faster easier and will give you a smoother bottom. While I'm not saying that you are unable to get a smooth bottom with you backhoe, it does take some skill and practice to be proficient at it. I have a fair number of hours on a backhoe and I still waste allot of time getting the bottoms of my trenches smooth and flat. I now have a trencher and would never use my backhoe over it for water lines.
I did 1,200 feet one time with a walk behind trencher in one day. It was a real pain, but easily doable. 60 feet is nothing.
Eddie
I did 1,200 feet one time with a walk behind trencher in one day. It was a real pain, but easily doable. 60 feet is nothing.
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Ditch witch??? Water lines up here are 4-5' deep and I cannot see how you can possibly work in a trench that skinny and deep. Besides, 1 decent rock and you are out of luck. Granted I live in NH where you need a hoe just to plant bulbs cause of the rocks. Don't forget....trenching and working in a trench for those who don't do it often is VERY dangerous. My neighbor DIED when the trench collapsed on his waterline project. Keep the trench sloped and the walls free from visible collapse.
rdsaustintx
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Good Lord. Here in BubbaLand frost depth is about 1/8". Code says 18" for utilities but nobody enforces it.
You dig 5' down here and you hit oil.
EddieWalker
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He didn't say how deep he has to go, so if it's 6 feet, then renting a trencher that large is going to be too expensive. 4 feet is pretty standard at a rental yard.
For the life of me, why would anybody want to get into the trench when installing water lines? For larger pipe, gasket pipe is best, but for just 60 feet, it really wont matter. If it's one inch or smaller, just glue them up beside the tench and lay the pipe in the trench. There's no reason to make this any harder then it needs to be, and water lines are about the simplist thing out there to do.
If glueing, use purple primer and clear, heavy duty glue. The primer is very important. It's softens the pipe and allows the glue to actualy weld the pipe or fittings together.
Eddie
For the life of me, why would anybody want to get into the trench when installing water lines? For larger pipe, gasket pipe is best, but for just 60 feet, it really wont matter. If it's one inch or smaller, just glue them up beside the tench and lay the pipe in the trench. There's no reason to make this any harder then it needs to be, and water lines are about the simplist thing out there to do.
If glueing, use purple primer and clear, heavy duty glue. The primer is very important. It's softens the pipe and allows the glue to actualy weld the pipe or fittings together.
Eddie
