quick attach for B7800

72chevy4x4 · Dec 22, 2006

I'm lining up a purchase of a B7800 for my church. I want the quick-attach system for the sake of hooking up a QA snowplow and other implements as they are needed. Originally I was looking at the ATI Tach-All Quick Attach for $650-only way to purchase is through the dealer. After talking w/ my dealer, we walked out into the yard and looked at the quick attach system for a L series, took measurements and it looks as if it will work. The pins are the same diameter, although the bracket on the QA for the L series (QA part number is L2230) is wider. Not a problem as I see it, just weld on bungs to properly space the pins. It turns out by buying the QA for the L series and the 66" (smallest available for L series) quick attach bucket L2234 and a little welding on my part, I"ll have a QA system for the B7800.

So....has anyone done this before?

Has anyone run extra valves and hydraulics to the front of the FEL? I'll want to use it to run hydraulics for the snowplow, but other uses may be QA sweepers, QA posthole digger or anything else made for the bobcat/skid steers.

thanks

ronjhall · Dec 22, 2006

The only problem with using the Kubota QA is the weight of QA and larger size bucket add to FEL. The 402 FEL has a max load lift of 1000 lbs. The QA and 66" bucket will be quite a bit heavier than a 60" bucket bucket for a 402 FEL.

Timber · Dec 22, 2006

Tach-all makes a tach all and bucket for that tractor. that is the 1 you want but get the 60 inch bucket.

IslandTractor · Dec 22, 2006

Horst Welding makes a QA adapter as well. Might be a bit cheaper than ATI but it is still a chunk of change.

Make sure the Kubota adapter is truly universal/skid steer and not proprietary (I don't know but I thought some of the Kubota quick attach systems were not universal).

ronjhall · Dec 23, 2006

If you just want to be able to switch out attachments on the FEL. You may want to consider the Kubota Quick Coupler. If welding is not a problem it is a great way to go. Weigh less and will fit many Kubota attachments. Most Skid Steer attachments are way to heavy for the 402 loader.
Check out my photos in TBN Photo's .
Here is a link to a thread from a few years ago. Quick Coupler Thread with part numbers.

wushaw · Dec 23, 2006

IslandTractor said:
Horst Welding makes a QA adapter as well. Might be a bit cheaper than ATI but it is still a chunk of change.

Make sure the Kubota adapter is truly universal/skid steer and not proprietary (I don't know but I thought some of the Kubota quick attach systems were not universal).

That part #2230 is the one for L3130 and fits L2800/3400 also, I have it on my L2800 which uses a 60" bucket and the bradco plate welded to my bucket.
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Timber · Dec 23, 2006

Go with the ATI you might want a root graple some day or a snow plow

IslandTractor · Dec 24, 2006

wushaw said:
That part #2230 is the one for L3130 and fits L2800/3400 also, I have it on my L2800 which uses a 60" bucket and the bradco plate welded to my bucket.
Hers a pic of it.PictureTrail - Online Photo Sharing, Personal Homepages, Slideshows, Image Hosting

Without measurements it is hard to be certain but those photos sure look like a universal skid steer quick attach style. Have you tried to hook up implements other than the Kubota buckets? Unless the Kubota QA was more expensive there would be no reason to look at ATI or Horst if this is a universal QA.

Timber · Dec 24, 2006

That will not fit the B7800, the only tach all that uses skid stear for the B7800 is made by ATI. That is for a bigger tractor

IslandTractor · Dec 24, 2006

Timber said:
That will not fit the B7800, the only tach all that uses skid stear for the B7800 is made by ATI. That is for a bigger tractor

I think the original poster thought he could cut and weld it to fit the B7800. I also presume Horst makes a QA adapter that would fit the B series. They make one that fit the Kioti CK20.

72chevy4x4 · Dec 24, 2006

i think the L2230 will fit the LA402 (hope I've got the numbers correct). The pin diameter is the same as is teh outer dimension of the arms. The inner dimensions of the arm are about 3/4" wider each side. With that, welding in a small bung to properly take up the space is all that's required. The only downside is the added weight of the L series QA bucket they wanted to sell me.

The only sticking point is wether or not teh L series is a universal QA. Is this something that can be determined by measuring the quick attach plate?

Thanks, I'm going to look into the Horst setup now. By using the L2230 setup, I could save a couple hundred over the ATI-although I don't want to forget the weight issue. Thanks for the comments!

IslandTractor · Dec 24, 2006

This is the Horst adapter I have: HORST WELDING | HLA >> REGULAR DUTY UNIVERSAL QUICK FIT PLATE. Works well, no complaints.

72chevy4x4 · Dec 24, 2006

i think the L2230 will fit the LA402 (hope I've got the numbers correct). The pin diameter is the same as is teh outer dimension of the arms. The inner dimensions of the arm are about 3/4" wider each side. With that, welding in a small bung to properly take up the space is all that's required. The only downside is the added weight of the L series QA bucket they wanted to sell me.

The only sticking point is wether or not teh L series is a universal QA. Is this something that can be determined by measuring the quick attach plate?

Thanks, I'm going to look into the Horst setup now. By using the L2230 setup, I could save a couple hundred over the ATI-although I don't want to forget the weight issue. Thanks for the comments!

wushaw · Dec 24, 2006

IslandTractor said:
Without measurements it is hard to be certain but those photos sure look like a universal skid steer quick attach style. Have you tried to hook up implements other than the Kubota buckets? Unless the Kubota QA was more expensive there would be no reason to look at ATI or Horst if this is a universal QA.

I've got a set of Bradco pallet forks that I use with it. This QA is for the L513 loader for the L3130 series tractors. The L2800/3400 buckets just have to have the Bradco or whatever brand QA plate welded to it an wholla a QA that Kubota doesn't offer as an option...not every dealer is up on what will fit what, I got lucky with one that just happens to with this.

cbo · Mar 9, 2007

Just wanted to see if anyone had made progress on using the L2230A on their B7800/LA402 loader. I am in the process of pricing the ATI right now, and if the L2230 is a viable option I would love to hear about it. Any more information on the horst unit also mentioned in this thread, how much was it? pro's cons etc..???

thank you.

cbo

lively1 · Mar 25, 2008

I know this is a very old thread, however I would really like to know how this project turned out. I am the exact same situation. I have a B2910 with LA 402 loader and would like to put a quick attach on the loader and modify my existing bucket to match. I would like to option to be able to use skid steer equipment when possible. I have priced ATI and Horst and would rather stay below their price points. Through my dealer I found a quick coupler for the LA 513 Loader for $289 and I am hoping that this will work. Horst's coupler is $658 and I think ATI's was in the $700's. I am also looking at getting a set of pallet forks to help moving material around....

bandit67 · Mar 25, 2008

The problem with the loader is the lift capacity, which will impact what type of skid steer QA products you can use because they weigh so much. Kubota does have a pin type QA that hooks into the top pins of the bucket and then you slide 2 removable pins into the bottom holes. It's much lighter than the skid steer QA, and is reasonably priced. Yes, you can get skid steer QA pallet forks cheaper than the Kubota forks if you search around, but the whole skid steer QA setup (QA plus weld-on plates add too much weight to the LA 402 & 403 setup), and you'll still be limited to what skid steer attachments you can use.

What I've found is that more and more attachment manufacturers are making both skid steer type QA setups, as well as the standard pin-on setups for the various tractor loaders. Many of them will even build a pin-on setup for you using your measurements (if they haven't yet done one for your loader), because it can then become one of their standard offerings. For the LA 402 & LA 403 loaders, I think the pin-type QA is the better way to go, since you can get so many attachments with the 4 pin holes to fit the loader, but still be able to take advantage of a QA setup.

Check out RonJHall's photos to see some of the many attachments he uses on his Kubota pin type QA.

If you still would prefer the skid steer type QA, then you'll have to pay for the ATI, because it appears to be the lightest weight version available, at only 40 lbs heavier than the pin-type QA, and won't eat up so much FEL capacity.