Question about Draft/Position control on new DK45S

[8NAcres]

Just had my new-to-me DK45S delivered last Saturday and gave it a heck of a workout bringing down an old barn. I needed to hook my trailer to it and I like to use the 3 point hitch with a drawbar attached to connect. When I got the tractor, both the position and draft controls were pulled all the way back and the 3 point was raised. I lowered the position control lever but the 3 point arms did not respond. If I lowered the draft control lever the arms would lower, but pulling back on the Position control lever would not make them raise. It appears only the Draft control lever affects the 3 point arms at this point.

I could not find anything on the owners manual except in the Troubleshooting section that is the hydraulics do not lower to - Check the hydraulic adjusting grip. (whatever that is). Is there something simple at play here that is not obvious to this new Kioti owner, or do I need to call the seller to discuss?

Thanks.

 

[paulfun9]

If the remote lever is in the on position the 3 point will sometimes not respond until you switch it to the off position Also it is not good to have the remote in the on position with nothing hooked up to the remote.

 

[murphy1244]

Turn your remote in neutral and draft all the way forward and make sure the 3 point adjuster knob is locked tight. the knob is between your legs by the floor mat. Then move your 3 point lever.

 

[k0ua]

For normal 3pt operation, Place draft control (yellow knob) all the way forward. Adjust the 3pt rate of descent knob so that the load on the 3pt will not hit the ground too fast or too slow to suit you. This knob is below the seat near the floor in the center, not to be confused with the seat adjustment. This knob if turned all the way clockwise will restrict the flow totally and not allow the load on the 3pt to go down at all. It will be locked. Turn it counterclockwise to allow the fluid to flow and the load to fall by gravity. To raise the load on the 3pt, use the position control lever (red knob) towards the back of the tractor to raise, and toward the front of the tractor to lower. Again the speed of lowering only is controlled by gravity (the weight of the load) AND the flow rate you have dialed in on the rate descent knob under the seat, near the floor.

I hope this helps.

 

[ritcheyvs]

There are four things here.

First, the small round shaft (with a spherical knob on the end) controls hydraulic flow to the remote quick-disconnects at the back. The fore and aft positions direct flow to one or the other QDs. But with nothing connected at the QDs, this "dead heads" the flow which puts a strain on the hydraulic pump. Prolonged operation with a deadheaded load will damage the hydraulic pump; you don't want to do that. When the remote is activated (fore or aft) it steals hydraulic power from the three-point hitch. Bottom line: keep that lever centered if you aren't using remote hydraulics and especially beware of it getting accidentally put in the detent position.

Second, there is a knob between your feet that controls the lowering speed of the three point hitch. The hitch lowers by gravity only; there is no hydraulic down force. If this knob is screwed in too far (which is easy to do by accident) the hitch will not lower.

Third is the draft control. You want this full forward unless you are plowing or using ground-engaging attachments..

Finally, the position control. When the draft control is full forward, this lever controls the up-down position of the three point hitch.

Back to the draft control. This control is intended for use with ground-engaging attachments, like a plow. It works in conjunction with the different top-link holes on the tractor. When the attachment meets enough resistance, the draft system raises the attachment to allow the tractor to continue moving forward. The draft lever (in conjunction with top link hole selection) sets the sensitivity for raising the attachment. The further the draft control is pulled back, less force will raise the attachment.

I just saw James' reply. On my DK45s, both draft and position levers are red but otherwise clearly marked.

 

[murphy1244]

Out of these 3 reply's he should get something going!!

 

[k0ua]

I just saw James' reply. On my DK45s, both draft and position levers are red but otherwise clearly marked.

I was just going by mine, and I figured all the draft controls were yellow, but apparently not.. Oh well, it should say on it somewhere.

On mine the draft lever is the one that is the nearest to the seat the the position control is the furthermost away from the seat.

 

[8NAcres]

Not questioning ANY replies here - just posting an obvious point. The valve by the floor shows it is to change the speed of the 3 point lowering. I was able to bring the arms down using the draft lever (so the arms are now down), the draft lever is now at the bottom of the selector, and the 3 point arms did not respond to the position control lever at this point. Since the valve by the floor only affects the speed to LOWER the arms, I can't see how it would keep it from RAISING the arms(?) Also, since the draft lever was at the bottom position, according to your replies that should make the Position lever take control if I am reading your replies correctly - and this did not happen.

Am I missing something?

Also - the rear hydraulic controls appeared to me to be in the middle of the selector range.

 

[murphy1244]

. Since the valve by the floor only affects the speed to LOWER the arms, I can't see how it would keep it from RAISING the arms(?)

We were thinking it might of been fully closed as not being able to go down at all.

Now with the draft lever down try to move the 3 point lever to the up position.

 

[8NAcres]

Murph - I did this. Once the arms lowered using the draft control lever (they will move up and down all day long with the draft control lever), and with the draft control lever in the DOWN position - the position control lever still did not move the 3 point arms at any point along the range selector slot.