Question about 3 point draft and position controls

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MarcusCarr

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Kioti DK35
I have a DK35SE with draft and position controls for the 3 point.


When using my boxblade and 3 point snowplow, I generally leave the draft control at number 1, and use the position control to raise and lower the implement.

The problem I run into is that the position control brings the boxblade to the ground at 7. This means that I only have a range of 7-10 to work with, which makes fine tuning very difficult.

Is there a way to get the same range of motion and have the handle travel from 1-10, which would give me more control?

Thanks,
Marcus
 
   / Question about 3 point draft and position controls #2  
I only use this with my 3-14 plow, I did not know it would work with implements that did not have a "draft".
Bob
 
   / Question about 3 point draft and position controls #3  
I attempt to use it all the time with my snow plow. It works quite well other then the undersized skid pads on the plow.

I say attempt because Im in a similer position as marcus. It goes from 10 to ground pretty quickly. I havent tried to set the other to above 1 just because it would take some setup before the snow was blowing. there are a fiew spots in the plowing that it would be likely to be of great help. my driveway drops off abit and i might be able to keep it from digging in with position setup proper.

I would be intrested to hear from some one who is really good at it and has explored what uses there are for position/draft
 
   / Question about 3 point draft and position controls #4  
MarcusCarr said:
I have a DK35SE with draft and position controls for the 3 point.


When using my boxblade and 3 point snowplow, I generally leave the draft control at number 1, and use the position control to raise and lower the implement.

The problem I run into is that the position control brings the boxblade to the ground at 7. This means that I only have a range of 7-10 to work with, which makes fine tuning very difficult.

Is there a way to get the same range of motion and have the handle travel from 1-10, which would give me more control?

Thanks,
Marcus

I don't yet have direct experience to help as I have yet to hook up my boxblade to my DK40se. However, just in case.....have you checked on the position of the top link? Is it the rear of the boxblade that is touching when you lower the position control below 7 or is the whole box blade (level) touching the ground? If the toplink is too long it will cause the box blade to pivot back and touch even if the position control is set high. There are also three (as I recall without checking) positions to attach the top link to the tractor and that may have an influence.
 
   / Question about 3 point draft and position controls #5  
You didn't read the manual? The wonderful owners manual makes the process so nice and clear:)

when you start your tractor, are the levers up or down? (draft and position control). Most people would have them down, to lower whatever implement may have been on their tractor to the ground. Then when you start your tractor you may move it up, to get it back off the ground. I believe the manual tells you to move them both to the top (to start), then you can move the position control. I do not move them both, Unless I am doing ground engaging work. I usually only use the position control lever. Draft control is for ground engaging work, and not above grade level work. It is designed to make flatter bottoms, particularly when plowing (so plow does not just keep digging down) The draft control controls how low it goes. It would work for any ground engaging implement from my understanding. I don't think it would be worthwhile above grade, but hey what do I know. I know I have sat on that tractor "puzzled" because my 3pt implement wouldn't work (go up or down). Turns out the little knob up by the seat rotates on its own while using the tractor. The knob, if set too far to rabbit or turtle, will not let the implement move.

The wonderful owners manual makes the process so nice and clear. Should have left it in Korean, it makes as much sense.
 
   / Question about 3 point draft and position controls #6  
PA I agree, I love the tractor, but the manual is the pitts. It's worse than the manuals that used to come with Jap. cars when they first starting importing then in the 60's.
 
   / Question about 3 point draft and position controls #7  
ToadHill said:
PA I agree, I love the tractor, but the manual is the pitts. It's worse than the manuals that used to come with Jap. cars when they first starting importing then in the 60's.

Manual, what manual, I don't need no stinking manual. I just call Rick and Amy for advice! :D
 
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PA hayseed said:
You didn't read the manual? The wonderful owners manual makes the process so nice and clear:)
I see a great many a trout in your future :D

I see where you are going and it will 100% help above ground impliments.

at the end of the parking lot it drops steeply for a foot then levels back off. If you use both draft and position you can keep the snowblower from gouging the lawn after it leaves the parkinglot. i have often had the blower drop after leaving the parking lot edge only to gouge since it had no bottom end on depth. put the position controal in and it keeps it realitivly close to where you left off. find out how steep the worst down angle is and make that the max ie top of steep hill. then when you go over the edge of the roads in to grass where it isnt as built up it wont just drop :) you still keep it hugging the road as you go over the hill tops. I could see a box blade working the same while scraping the road only in reverse. when you top a hill it keeps the blade from dropping deeper and notching the hill top.

granted this is all theory but i may get practice tomorow
 
   / Question about 3 point draft and position controls #9  
It's been a long time and many miles since I sat on a tractor plowing a field. Even then, as a lad, all I had to do was drive and all setup had been done for me. However, I seem to recall that the draft was set to a desired depth and locked. After that the plow was lifted and lowered with the position control.

I just came across a page from an old Ferguson (the inventor of the 3 point hitch and draft control) Plow manual that seems to say the same thing. In this manual the hydalever is the position control lever. Hope this helps.

 
   / Question about 3 point draft and position controls #10  
Pulling out a stump, the3pl jumped up because it skid of the stump, then the 3 pl wouldn't go down unless I stopped the tractor, than I found out that I still could work it with the draft control, but it won't sit on a position, its up or down, but I can work with it, what went wrong, when it jumped up ????
 

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