QA plate angle

[Badback]

Please, I need some info.

Regarding the use of third party attachments:

I have seen some posts that mention that the QA plate needs to be mounted at some (unspecified) angle to a third party attachment.

Can anyone tell me what that angle is and why?

What is wrong with just plain vertical?

I guess that this has something to do with the range of motion of the QA plate, but I haven't found any specific information in the forum.

I plan to get a 1430 this fall, and a FFC snowblower, so I really need to know if this is a real issue.

Thanks for any help!

 

[dex3361]

Please, I need some info.

Regarding the use of third party attachments:

I have seen some posts that mention that the QA plate needs to be mounted at some (unspecified) angle to a third party attachment.

Can anyone tell me what that angle is and why?

What is wrong with just plain vertical?

I guess that this has something to do with the range of motion of the QA plate, but I haven't found any specific information in the forum.

I plan to get a 1430 this fall, and a FFC snowblower, so I really need to know if this is a real issue.

Thanks for any help!

are you getting a FEL with the SSQA already on the machine and the snow blower is already SSQA compatible the you have nothing to worry about. i made a SSQA by 3 point hitch adapter. This needed to have a bit of an angle made between the 2 because the FEL on my tractor has a low rollback angle.

 

[Rustyiron]

Please, I need some info.

What is wrong with just plain vertical?

I guess that this has something to do with the range of motion of the QA plate, but I haven't found any specific information in the forum.

You are right, it is range of motion. For example a bucket needs to have some "built in" dump to it or you could never dump it at full lift of your boom when loading a truck, (picture the arc that it travels) for a snow blower, I would be inclined to mount the plate with enough "built in" dump to be able to raise it plenty (with bucket roll back only) for travel. Then to return it to "work" position you only need to "dump" and not need to fool with the boom height position. I think that this is more important on Skid steers (where the quick attach came from) because on a skid steer, the boom (on most models) comes all the way down and contacts a set of stops on the chassis so that the heavy digging forces are directed not thru the loader arms but right to the frame. I think that you'll find that you're tractor's mounting plate is real close to full roll back when vertical and the boom is lowered. It may not be convienient to mount your plate to your snowblower with a 20 deg. forward of vert. but it will make using it worth it!

 

[tawilson]

Tractors loaders roll the bucket back further than skidsteer loaders. To make a tractor stone fork work on my skidsteer I added in a 3" piece of angle iron as a spacer. Without it the forks would only roll back to a level position.

 

[MossRoad]

Please, I need some info.

Regarding the use of third party attachments:

I have seen some posts that mention that the QA plate needs to be mounted at some (unspecified) angle to a third party attachment.

Can anyone tell me what that angle is and why?

What is wrong with just plain vertical?

I guess that this has something to do with the range of motion of the QA plate, but I haven't found any specific information in the forum.

I plan to get a 1430 this fall, and a FFC snowblower, so I really need to know if this is a real issue.

Thanks for any help!

The angle is different on each attachment. For instance, on both my small and large buckets, there is no angle. The back of the bucket is already at the proper angle and the female mount is attached flat to that. The forks, on the other hand, have an angle to the mount. There is also an angle built into the snowplow. There is no angle on the finish mower or brush hog.

When you get your blower, set it on level ground and drive the Power Trac up to it. Curl the quick attach plate full back and see what the angle difference is between the two. If you mount the plate at that angle, you will never be able to curl the blower back any further when it is on the ground. So, think about it a while before you attach the female plate to the blower so you get the best angle for your needs.

 

[J_J]

When you get your implement, tack weld the plate to the attachment with the estimated angle, and check range of motion. Finish welding if OK.

 

[frischtr]

The angle is different on each attachment. For instance, on both my small and large buckets, there is no angle. The back of the bucket is already at the proper angle and the female mount is attached flat to that. The forks, on the other hand, have an angle to the mount. There is also an angle built into the snowplow. There is no angle on the finish mower or brush hog.

When you get your blower, set it on level ground and drive the Power Trac up to it. Curl the quick attach plate full back and see what the angle difference is between the two. If you mount the plate at that angle, you will never be able to curl the blower back any further when it is on the ground. So, think about it a while before you attach the female plate to the blower so you get the best angle for your needs.

+1

Also, a snowblower isn't going to need the range of motion that a bucket or forks will, so its probably not as critical anyway.

 

[Badback]

Thanks everyone for the fast and copius replys.

If I'm understanding this correctly, the QA plate tilts forward farther than it tilts back.

What have you used to correct the angle, assuming that I need to kick the bottom of the plate out a bit. Would a piece of angle iron do? Or, do I need a continuous weld all around the plate?

 

[MossRoad]

Thanks everyone for the fast and copius replys.

If I'm understanding this correctly, the QA plate tilts forward farther than it tilts back.

What have you used to correct the angle, assuming that I need to kick the bottom of the plate out a bit. Would a piece of angle iron do? Or, do I need a continuous weld all around the plate?

RegL had a similar dilemma back in 2004 (good grief how the time flies, that was 7 years ago!!!). Here is a link to that thread and below is a picture of my forks taken just for him from the side! :laughing:

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/power-trac/36525-fork-question.html

 

[frischtr]

Thanks everyone for the fast and copius replys.

If I'm understanding this correctly, the QA plate tilts forward farther than it tilts back.

What have you used to correct the angle, assuming that I need to kick the bottom of the plate out a bit. Would a piece of angle iron do? Or, do I need a continuous weld all around the plate?

Yes, the QA plate tilts much further forward than back. Can't speak to adjusting the angle, as I haven't done any, but I would guess the strength of the weld/bracing required would depend on the weight of the implement and the amount of stress likely to be placed on it.

 

[MossRoad]

You can see that the forks are pre-bent to the correct angle for the plate and there is a 90 degree vertical plate at the back of the forks that provide both a stop for loads AND support for the forks to keep them from bending.

You are correct that the QA male plate on the FEL arms tilt farther forward than backwards... when the FEL arms are all the way down.

When the FEL arms are all the way up, you can flip dirt or logs or whatever right off the bucket or forks and into your lap if you are not careful.

This is because the QA plate is not auto-leveling. That would require a parallel linkage configuration that would ad cost to the FEL. So if you start off with the forks parallel to the ground, as you lift the FEL arms, that angle changes unless you manually dump or curl with the joystick.

 

[J_J]

You can also change the rotation angle by shorten or lengthen the link bar from the roll over assembly to the QA plate. My link bar has two settings in it.

 

[Badback]

Thanks everone! That works for me.

 

[stray]

the angles on my large bucket

 

[stray]

Flat on the Ground

 

[MossRoad]

That LARGE bucket still cracks me up. It is so disproportionate that it looks photo shopped. :laughing:

There are times when I could use something that large. Not too often, but just once in a while. Every time I see an old oil tank I think if it. :thumbsup:

 

[Badback]

Thanks Stray, great pictures!

So, I see that you had a little extra red paint leftover from the bucket and decided to start painting on the shed...

Is the drain plug a side benefit of using an oil drum?

 

[stray]

yea just cleaning the brush

 

[stray]

Moss that Red bucket has been one of the handiest attachments I have. I don't use it to hall rock or dirt but it will haul and haul with a full bucket most types of wood that has been split (level full with hickory and oak), moss, grass packed in with the smaller bucket, cat tails with mud and roots attached, construction debris, as long as the load is not over 500 lbs. If it is over you can of course tell by the pucker. With common sense The PT really handles it well. Except for the time I broke that wheel motor. But I had the wheels reversed and way too many big rocks in it, the rear end in the air and vigorously flopping the tail section back and forth. It was defiantly my fault. Every body needs a large RED bucket

 

[MossRoad]

Moss that Red bucket has been one of the handiest attachments I have. I don't use it to hall rock or dirt but it will haul and haul with a full bucket most types of wood that has been split (level full with hickory and oak), moss, grass packed in with the smaller bucket, cat tails with mud and roots attached, construction debris, as long as the load is not over 500 lbs. If it is over you can of course tell by the pucker. With common sense The PT really handles it well. Except for the time I broke that wheel motor. But I had the wheels reversed and way too many big rocks in it, the rear end in the air and vigorously flopping the tail section back and forth. It was defiantly my fault. Every body needs a large RED bucket

I use the tail flopping as an indication that I am abusing the machine too hard..... so I only abuse it a little bit more after that. :laughing: