Chipper PTO Wood Chipper Question

[Warren28]

Hello, have a Kubota BX25...thinking of adding a Wallenstein PTO chipper. Have been told either a BX32 or BX42 model will work although tractor having17 hp @ PTO might cause BX42 to have trouble with 4" logs. Anyone have experience with this tractor and or chipper brand. Recommendations appreciated and pricing info too !

 

[Couple of Achers]

I have the BX42 behind my BX23. I can't say as I have ever ran 4" stock through it, since that size stuff is fire wood to me. I run the throttle wide open and let it eat. Seems to be a good match. Wide open on the BX23 is just a hair over 540 pto speed any way. It will slow down occasionally on the tougher stuff, but I have never killed the tractor, not even close. If you do hear it slowing down, just hold on to the limb a second or two and then let it go again. I like the Wallenstein because of it's simplistic design with no belts to worry about. It is not something I use a lot any longer, but when ever the wife wants some more mulch for around the trees and different areas, I go make some for her. It's kind of fun actually.

 

[brandoro]

I don't think you will have any trouble with 4" material unless it is dry hardwood. Anything green will go through okay, might pull the RPM down a bit for a few seconds. The B7610 (24HP and I think 19PTO HP) I had before would be working with 4" material but never stalled out. I don't usually chip 4" material but had to try it at maximum once. The B3030 doesn't seem the least bit concerned with anything that will fit through the chipper.
In regards to the 'anything green' remark, green willow twigs make the twig breaker into a twig folder and will spring open and plug the chute, best to let willow dry a bit before chipping. Only thing I have ever had plug my chipper.

 

[Dead Horse]

Yeah likely the only 4 inch stuff you will put through the chipper is punky junk wood anyway. I am unfamilar with the specific chipper you reference. I use a Valby two stage behind my 3710. The feed speed is important for the type of material you are feeding. I cannot imaging using a low powered single stage chipper for anything beyond 1 inch brush......

I do not think I would be comfortable with a single stage chipper. it would neither be strong enough to do real work, nor safe enough for anything but chopping near weeds. You get a big enough flywheel chipper moving at speed and the flywheel itself does the real work...... moderate the feed rate to keep the rotor moving at functioning rpms.........

 

[Couple of Achers]

Yeah likely the only 4 inch stupp you will put through the chipper is punky junk wood anyway. I am unfaamilar with the specific chipper you reference. I use a Valby two stage behind my 3710. The feed speed is important for the type of material you are feeding. I cannot imaging using a low powered single stage chipper for anything beyond 1 inch brush......

I do not think I would be comfortable with a single stage chipper. it would neither be strong enough to do real work, nor safe enough for anything but chopping near weeds. You get a big enough flywheel chipper moving at speed and the flywheel itself does the real work...... moderate the feed rate to keep the rotor moving at functioning rpms.........

I don't want to hi-jack this thread and get off topic, but I have ask, what are you refferring to when you say single stage or two stage chipper?

 

[Dead Horse]

sorry. The Valby has a hydraulic motor, feed drum, that is speed adjustable. This takes the material to be chipped from the feed shute and feeds it to the blades and anvil box of the chipper. I was responding to someone's comment about managing the feed speed by holding on to the material to be chipped with his hands. With a two stage chipper, once the material is in the feed shute, you do NOT handle it. The feed drum is also reversable for when you get a jam.

Pickies added.

Back to our regularly scheduled programming..............

 

[brandoro]

I am also curious about what a "two stage chipper" is??
Two stage snow blower I understand but haven't heard of a two stage chipper.
Getting back to the topic though, I can assure the OP that the Wallenstein is capable of "real work". It also self feeds so feed rate is not a big concern either.

 

[Couple of Achers]

Yes indeed.
Let me clarify. I did not mean to suggest you need to hand feed each log. It self feeds very sufficiently. I was just suggesting that if you were feeding 4" stock and it happened to start bogging down your tractor, just grab the log and hold onto if for a second. It is not that fast of feed that you cant let go. And it goes without saying they you never put your hand on the log once it clears the hopper. And I never reach parallel to the hopper, always at 90 degrees the hopper so my arm would hit the hopper long before it even came anywhere near the cutter. Sorry for any confusion. But I assure you, I have never needed a hydraulic feed on my chipper. And it is indeed capable of real work.

 

[natem]

Just bought a Liberty chipper, With the power feed. I am looking forward to getting this and trying it out. Fair price too.

 

[Dead Horse]

Yes indeed.
Let me clarify. I did not mean to suggest you need to hand feed each log. It self feeds very sufficiently. I was just suggesting that if you were feeding 4" stock and it happened to start bogging down your tractor, just grab the log and hold onto if for a second. It is not that fast of feed that you cant let go. And it goes without saying they you never put your hand on the log once it clears the hopper. And I never reach parallel to the hopper, always at 90 degrees the hopper so my arm would hit the hopper long before it even came anywhere near the cutter. Sorry for any confusion. But I assure you, I have never needed a hydraulic feed on my chipper. And it is indeed capable of real work.

No worries my friend.

I am a freekazoid about safety being job 1, and I set my own personal standards as to what that entails. I ain't going to lecture anyone about it..... not my style. Best to ya!

PS, the (two stage) Valby feed chute is pretty near horozintal, (though never negative camber) somewhat depending on the tractor and implement positioning on the ground. In the case of single stage chippers the feed chute is generally at a 45 degree angle = or -, thus the "self feed" feature. The thing I most like about the two stage is that you can control the feed speed with an adjustable flow valve and you can stop and reverse the feed drum with the "crash bar" feed control lever which surrounds the top and sides of the wide end of the feed chute.

Saftey first......... Valby did a good job of designing that "feature" in, as far as I am concerned.

 

[Runner]

"The thing I most like about the two stage is that you can control the feed speed with an adjustable flow valve and you can stop and reverse the feed drum with the "crash bar" feed control lever which surrounds the top and sides of the wide end of the feed chute."

I would like to have a hydraulic feed on my BX42 for the same reason, but it is a pretty expensive option. It is kind of hard to grab and hold a branch once that thing starts chipping it...

As for the OP question: My 2520 has 21.5 hp at the PTO and I was able to kill the engine with a 4 inch piece of old hard wood. It will handle softer stuff that size, but it is pushing the limit.

I have run old 4x4 cedar fence posts through there with no problem.

 

[htobin]

Wallenstein BX 42 on my Kubota L2800 has worked great. Handles anything that fits. Primarily using it for Mesquite. Bought mine from New Holland Abilene TX. Great service. Highly recommend

 

[spk64]

Hello, have a Kubota BX25...thinking of adding a Wallenstein PTO chipper. Have been told either a BX32 or BX42 model will work although tractor having17 hp @ PTO might cause BX42 to have trouble with 4" logs. Anyone have experience with this tractor and or chipper brand. Recommendations appreciated and pricing info too !

I have a BX42 on my BX24. Works great. 4" green softwood can be chipped. I usually cut the lengths down so only a 3-4' log is placed in the chipper.

 

[smfcpacfp]

I probably have 20 hours on my BX42 chipper (mostly jackpine) and it has worked flawlessly. As you use it, you learn how to avoid problems and things that slow you down.

 

[nickel plate]

Go to the Wallenstein website and get their tech phone number (Canada) and give them a call. I found them very helpful on a similar selection issue that I had.

 

[Sam Mac]

Give Salsco a look. Salsco, Inc. Manufacturer of Large Power Equipment I have a 624 on my BX 2660. Had it on my BX2200 with no problems.

 

[ayelvington]

I have a 42 on my 24 and it works just fine. You might want to put something in the FEL to counter the weight, but no problem with the chipper. Can you choke the tractor? Sure, but why do it more than once? Just feed big stuff slowly and life is good.

 

[nh DRAGON]

Give Salsco a look. Salsco, Inc. Manufacturer of Large Power Equipment I have a 624 on my BX 2660. Had it on my BX2200 with no problems.

I like Salsco but it looks big what is the weight of that beast?

 

[gtrippleb]

I was wondeing if anyone had to cut the pto shaft on the bx42 chipper when using it with the smaller subcompacts? I have a cub sc2400 and I noticed in the manual it shows cutting the pto shaft. I also read about using a quich-attach that provided a little more length to help with binding.

 

[jeff9366]

I have had a Wallenstein BX42s, since end of January 2012. Purchased it from Iowa Farm Equipment via eBay for $2599 plus $335 freight to Florida. Ordered it on eBay before Noon, it was on a truck heading for Florida at 2:00 PM same day.

Wallenstein has an excellent reputation. I have been pleased with mine.
PTO direct drive, NO hydraulic feed // NO hydraulic fluid. I am a firm believer in the KISS principal.....Keep It Simple, Stupid. The BX42s is a KISS implement.

I run mine behind a Kubota B3300SU; 33 engine hp / 25 PTO hp. It chips all the green wood I feed it in Florida. Personally, I amputate roots with V28 battery powered Sawzall before feeding in trunks. Dirt will dull the blades so I avoid it by cutting off the roots. I also do not try to make the chipper into a shredder. When the trunk chips down to the twigs I toss those twig bits onto the pile of roots and the combination goes to the burn pile. Straight trunks, without roots feed easily so your arms take less pounding from vibration. My arms are 64 years old.

Kubota B3300SU manual recommends 500 pounds weight on the three point hitch when using the bucket. This is not essential in Florida with our rock-free sandy loam...even a full bucket is easy to transport with nothing on the back. However, when carrying heavy sections of Water Oak trunks (12"-30" in diameter) chained to the bucket a counter-weight on the back is essential. The BX42s weights 425 pounds....just about right.

I recommend getting a dolly to rest your chipper on between uses. It is a real bugger mounting any implement on the three point when the implements rests directly on a floor. The castered Vistil dolly I bought, also on eBay, 1,200 pound capacity, eliminates 90% of my bad language.

One last thought: The BX32 has a V-belt between the PTO shaft and the chipper drum, used to speed up the rotor on the BX32, Wallenstein's smallest chipper. The BX42, BX62 and BX92 are all DIRECT PTO drive; NO V-belts. I hate V-belts.