3-Point Hitch PTO size?

[panorth]

Just bought a Yanmar 240 with "850" hours. I know something about diesels by way of too many years of big boat ownership. However, I don't know a **** thing about tractors. Fortunately I did receive a couple of manuals with the tractor that had been provided by Hoye. Tractor seems to run fine and I am skimming the manuals.

My neighbor has a Kubota BX24 with all the attachment toys. Will his attachments fit my Yanmar 240? Are they both class 1 pto's?

Thanks for any help.

 

[6thgpSF]

panorth,welcome to this forum.lot of great info here.because both tractors are pretty close to engine and pto HP I would think anything he has would work for you. If you are thinking of finish mowers or bush hog I would't go over 4'.both have cat.1 hitchs. russ

 

[panorth]

Thanks for the reply Russ. I actually have my eye on the neighbors backhoe to do some drainage work. I have big plans for my Yanmar 240 to help me grade a spot for my 42'x28' boat barn and may even use it to raise the frames using a socketsystems.com framework.

 

[JL Sargent]

Be careful with the backhoe. I have seen tractors literally break in half using one on a 3pt hitch. Special subframes make it all work so much better.

 

[California]

I have a YM240. Back in the day, a US made 3-point backhoe was a dealer option. And the identical US hoe was also sold by Kubota dealers as their 'Kubota' backhoe.

Here's my rig, YM240 with its correct backhoe. (But the hoe is in Kubota colors, as are my oversize rear tire rims).

Note that backhoe is smaller than the one sold today on Kubota's BX series. I think the present BX hoe is frame-mount, which is much more rugged than a 3-point attachment. I expect you will find there is no easy way to put the BX hoe in a YM240.

All the other Category 1 implements should interchange, however.

 

[panorth]

Thanks California, I'll have to take a closer look at my neighbors rig I suspect your right. I did spot an aftermarket backhoe on Craigslist for $2000 that seemed like it would work but it was sold before I contacted them. Oh well, I'll keep looking. Thanks

 

[6thgpSF]

panorth,as said if you get a bh you should mount it on a subframe.I 'm thinking some of the Kubota models have bh that are permanent and can't be taken off.not sure about your neighabor's model. russ

 

[Johndeere3720]

panorth,as said if you get a bh you should mount it on a subframe.I 'm thinking some of the Kubota models have bh that are permanent and can't be taken off.not sure about your neighabor's model. russ

The BX24 has a removable hoe. My neighbor has one and i checked out the 4 point mounting subframe. 4 pins and some hydraulic hoses are all there is. I know for a fact that the BX hoe wont fit the Yanmar. Does your Yanmar have a FEL? When using a hoe, it is best to have a FEL since having it flat on the ground will add stability if you were doing some heavy lifting with the hoe. all your neighbors 3 point implements more than likely will fit your Yanmar.

 

[Willl]

I have seen tractors literally break in half using one on a 3pt hitch.

Any facts or links ?

 

[Johndeere3720]

Any facts or links ?

or pictures?

 

[normde2001]

Any facts or links ?

I also, have read about it, but I charge by the minute for searches.

 

[Willl]

Ya,,,,,OK,,,,,sure ya did.

 

[California]

Ya,,,,,OK,,,,,sure ya did.

Keep it up and I think you'll get outvoted. I've seen those pictures too.

And I've put stresses on my backhoe-equipped Yanmar that I thought risked breaking the bell housing, like the pictures I've seen, if it didn't already have loader-mount stiffener bars that go all the way back to the towbar socket.

I think the greater risk is tearing the lower 3-point pins out of the side of the transmission when the tractor is lifted off the ground by the backhoe. (Lifted by the bucket, not by its feet). The stresses on the 3-point become extreme when the backhoe is used at an extreme angle left or right of the tractor centerline. Worst case is trying to drag the tractor sideways to follow a stump root or something. I quit stressing mine that way after I bent one of the lower 3-point arms about 3/4 inch out of straight. I took the arm off and pounded it back straight with a sledge, then decided to quit such obvious abuse. A frame-mount would transfer stresses much better than a 3-point can.

(Original thread with my photos.)

 

[normde2001]

Ya,,,,,OK,,,,,sure ya did.

Yep, they are all over the place. Found a couple of New Hollands, a Massey, Hinomoto, and a Kubota, with broken bell housings and blocks from using either hoes or FELs. I was just kidding about charging for searches, but not about posting the results.

 

[kenmac]

Keep it up and I think you'll get outvoted. )

Your right.I don't think he's read or seen many post cause, I've even seen /read about BH'S & FEL'S breaking tractors in 1/2

 

[careyo63]

Keep it up and I think you'll get outvoted. I've seen those pictures too.

Chalk up another One. I can remember even seeing Cal's. Pic's before on the subject and I still CHRS it's getting better though :laughing:

Carey

 

[Willl]

I'll call it,,,,BS

 

[normde2001]

I'll call it,,,,BS

You can't really be serious.

 

[panorth]

Thanks for all the advice...I have some more homework to do. I like the Yanmar so far. However, I might decide to rent an excavator to do my backhoe work. Thanks for your help. Peter

 

[careyo63]

No problem Peter you know now were to ask it you need to know anything about your Tractor. I guess you can tell not to take any offence to you personally. Have to say I did get a chuckle on the posts :laughing:

Carey