Pto install

[jamesdecanter]

I have rebuilt my pto shaft on my 801 powermaster. When installing it catches on the shifter and pulls it forward but will go no further. Should I remove the part it slides into?

 

[pmsmechanic]

Without more of a description or pictures it's a little hard to visualize what you are trying to do. Pictures would help the most.

 

[jamesdecanter]

It would be difficult to get pictures. The pto shaft inserts all the way to the final collar. I took the side plate off to make sure. The problem is when I attempt to make it go the final 6 inches, it carries the pto shifter with it and jams the shifter. I am wondering what I would encounter if I remove that final destination part. It is a big collar with the pto shift built into it. The shifter on the side slides something to engage. I thank you for your help

 

[pmsmechanic]

Go here Official New Holland Online Parts Store and Online Parts Catalog for New Holland and Ford Tractors. figure out which transmission you have (4 or 5 speed) and if you have a single or two speed pto and lets see if a person can't figure it out

 

[jamesdecanter]

I have a 4 speed and single speed PTO.

 

[pmsmechanic]

Official New Holland Online Parts Store and Online Parts Catalog for New Holland and Ford Tractors. Is this the part that's causing trouble?

 

[jamesdecanter]

Yes it is. I have looked for hours trying to find that image. If you could please tell me the next steps. Thank you. I am in uncharted territory, at least for me.

 

[jamesdecanter]

I have not seen part 10.

 

[coralhead]

part 10 is attached to the cover and lever

 

[jamesdecanter]

Yes. It still catches on the shifter mechanism, pushes it forward. If I force it past this position, which is about an inch, it will go all the way in but then the shifter will not move.

 

[jamesdecanter]

When I pull the shaft out, I have to give it a sharp jerk to get it free.

 

[jamesdecanter]

When removing the shaft, a sharp jerk is required to free it.

 

[pmsmechanic]

Ok so if I'm reading correctly how everything all goes together then part 10 engages part 3 which is bolted to part 2. Part 2 moves part 12 back and forth to engage the pto. If I'm correct then it looks like part 12 has two groves in it. Could part 2 be in the wrong grove? Could there be a burr or something on the splines of the pto shaft that slide into part 12?

Edited to add: I looked on eBay and there are several good deals on factory Ford service manuals. Several combinations of owners, parts and service manuals. If you are going to continue to do your own service a factory manual is highly recommended. I&T manuals are ok but they never go into the detail that a factory service manual does. Search "ford 801 manual". I tried to find a pdf of a manual but the prices for paper ones are very reasonable. Just a suggestion.

I just looked through eBay some more and the first pdf I came to for $28.95 has everything you need. Ford 61 81 Tractor SERVICE, PARTS Catalog, OWNERS Manual -6- Manuals 1953-1964 | eBay

 

[coralhead]

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[jamesdecanter]

After about a zillion attempts I put the pto In neutral, held the shifter and gently pecked the end of the shaft, it went in. Thanks for your help and heads up on a Manuel.

 

[coralhead]

The spline was probably buggered up.

 

[jamesdecanter]

I was nervous about the hammer use but I took off the side plate, felt the inside splines and made sure the pto shaft was inserted propely.

 

[pmsmechanic]

I was nervous about the hammer use but I took off the side plate, felt the inside splines and made sure the pto shaft was inserted propely.

If the pto engages and disengages freely then the splines are ok. Glad you got it all assembled.

 

[jamesdecanter]

All works!!