Generator PTO generator weather proofing

[Smokeydog]

Great job!

What is the black pad made out of that the generator is sitting on?

It’s a scrap of anti-fatigue mat I had. Maybe reduce vibration and noise?

 

[Smokeydog]

Looks good, is it a bit tight getting to hookup the pto?
If long enough at times I'll hook up the pto's then back the rest of the way in some implements.

The Pat’s quick hitch gives a little more room. Even a new pto shaft was easy to connect. Connected to tractor first then to the generator but could do either way.

 

[Smokeydog]

Looking good.

On mine, I also added 3 of those Volt/Amp/Hz meters. One per phase. Works awesome and only cost like $4 each.

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I like that! Wondering if I should monitor the amps per leg?

Another concern is grounding. No problem with houses or barn since tied to the building ground system. But if used remotely need a ground. Like a slide hammer grounding rod like the military uses?

 

[ptsg]

I like that! Wondering if I should monitor the amps per leg?

Another concern is grounding. No problem with houses or barn since tied to the building ground system. But if used remotely need a ground. Like a slide hammer grounding rod like the military uses?

For the price of those things, it's pretty much a no brainer having a meter per leg.

As far as grounding, I'm not using one on mine. Probably should though.

 

[MAX-24-Dean]

I like that! Wondering if I should monitor the amps per leg?

Another concern is grounding. No problem with houses or barn since tied to the building ground system. But if used remotely need a ground. Like a slide hammer grounding rod like the military uses?

If the wiring compartment is readily accessible, I would bond the neutral and the ground at the generator for remote use.
Just make sure any cords you use have continuity on the ground prong.

 

[Smokeydog]

Worked on making a weatherproof cover. Pto slot cut. Need a few ventilation and cord holes. Holding down with bungees for now. Need some blocking at the base to keep from shifting. Think the concept will work and keep the generator dry in inclement weather. Strong enough to push on the top for positioning.

 

[grsthegreat]

Thats a unique idea.
hope your neighbor doesnt miss his trash can

 

[RjCorazza]

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Worked on making a weatherproof cover. Pto slot cut. Need a few ventilation and cord holes. Holding down with bungees for now. Need some blocking at the base to keep from shifting. Think the concept will work and keep the generator dry in inclement weather. Strong enough to push on the top for positioning.
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I like it. I envisioned your project with the trash can laying horizontally with the lid closing on the back of the generator. Better access like you have it.

 

[bdhsfz6]

Do you get heat buildup inside the enclosure?

I used a plastic deck box in a similar manner to cover my 12KW PTO generator. I had to prop the lid open a bit to vent the heat buildup produced under heavy load.

 

[Smokeydog]

Do you get heat buildup inside the enclosure?

I used a plastic deck box in a similar manner to cover my 12KW PTO generator. I had to prop the lid open a bit to vent the heat buildup produced under heavy load.

Appreciate the experience advice. Definitely something I’ll monitor. Propping up the lid a possibility. A simple bungee across and under the lid could give variable space and still give rain protection. Generator is fan cooled. Pulling air from back thru the alternator. Not shown very well in the photos, there is a 6x15” slot for the pto on front and 1x21” slot overhang on the back. There will be holes for cords, large for 50amp industrial plug. Also plan for some 1” holes around under the generous drip edge of the container lid. As you can see the lid also swings completely away if needed. Maybe some side holes/slots or louvers that align with generator fan flow path? The trash can is surprisingly heavy, strong and tough material made for rugged handling in outdoor extreme temperatures. Wall thickness 3/16”. It doesn’t say but suspect this one was 65gallon capacity. $35, used, sourced locally. We have the larger 96gallon style.

 

[Smokeydog]

Like many of us living the dream with property, we have to rely on generators sometimes.

Bought some meters to mount on the generator to better monitor. Some extra to make a simple box to be plugged into a receptacle to monitor any generator or house when on generator power. Cost of parts only about $20.

Hertz is right on and the volts is 0.3-0.4 high compared to my Fluke meters.

Have it now by the TV admiring my work. Wife says it’s too bright to stay there unless we are on emergency power. Numbers are sharper than shown in the photos.

 

[ptsg]

Like many of us living the dream with property, we have to rely on generators sometimes.

Bought some meters to mount on the generator to better monitor. Some extra to make a simple box to be plugged into a receptacle to monitor any generator or house when on generator power. Cost of parts only about $20.

Hertz is right on and the volts is 0.3-0.4 high compared to my Fluke meters.

Have it now by the TV admiring my work. Wife says it’s too bright to stay there unless we are on emergency power. Numbers are sharper than shown in the photos.
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Looks nice. I kinda agree on the brightness. Maybe some dark window tint film would help it a little bit?

 

[RjCorazza]

Years ago I bought a few "kilowatt" meters that plug into a house outlet. I only use it for the hertz and voltage readings.

 

[Smokeydog]

Being able monitor electrical parameters during emergency power was my goal.

PTO generators being the probably the most variable options. Good clean power when operating correctly.

 

[mrmikey]

Wonder how accurate the HZ reading is where most non-inverter generators are not a true sine wave. I've got a plug in power meter that registers HZ, volts, amps watts, I meant to use it last time the power was out and I had the generator set up but I forgot it.
I was looking at this one and planning on mounting it in a box similar idea to yours. Amazon.ca

 

[LouNY]

Wonder how accurate the HZ reading is where most non-inverter generators are not a true sine wave. I've got a plug in power meter that registers HZ, volts, amps watts, I meant to use it last time the power was out and I had the generator set up but I forgot it.
I was looking at this one and planning on mounting it in a box similar idea to yours. Amazon.ca

I have been hearing this for some time now. I have no idea how it started or who has been pushing this thought.
Any AC generator (true generator) is going to produce a sine wave that is a function of rotating fields and magnets.
An inexpensive AC generator can have poor voltage and frequency regulation but it is still producing a sine wave for power.
NO inverter power supply (DC generator) produces a "true" sine wave, they simulate a sine wave by a multiple step square wave. When they produce enough steps to get to less then a 3% variance from a true sine wave then someone decided that would call that a true sine wave generator, but it is NOT.
An AC generator with a poorly manufactured winding can make "dirty" power have multiple sine waves imposed on the main sine wave causing "noise" in the power.

 

[mrmikey]

Any AC generator (true generator) is going to produce a sine wave that is a function of rotating fields and magnets.
An inexpensive AC generator can have poor voltage and frequency regulation but it is still producing a sine wave for power.

I've never thought of it like that before but it does make total sense, it would have to be a sine wave with rotating generation..

An AC generator with a poorly manufactured winding can make "dirty" power have multiple sine waves imposed on the main sine wave causing "noise" in the power.

Yup, I refuse to power any electronics other than the ones I can afford to lose, (microwave and coffee pot) off my generator. Mines not a cheap generator neither, a Firman 7.5KW tri fuel, and they say the THD is 11-14%, recommended for most electronics what I've read is 5% max.

 

[LouNY]

And I just use every thing and anything on my pto generator, Electronics to electrical.

 

[grsthegreat]

I power everything off of my whole house generator, have since 1996. Ive never lost anything.

im an electrician, and even i dont have meters everywhere showing me hz and volts and amps. I think that leads to information overload.

now, on a pto gen system i might be more inclined to have a meter, as the pro speed can vary. But modern whole house systems have protection from over and undervoltage to protect your equipment. they can even shut down if freq isnt correct.

Portable units not so much.

 

[Smokeydog]

My used pto generator OEM voltmeter was bad so voltage and hertz was low. Too low. So the extra meters help me gain confidence. Have yet to do a full house test. Hope I didn’t buy a bad generator.

Have several other generators we have used over the decades for backup power. Always looking to improve our options before an emergency.