Pros and Cons of allowing Cell Tower on Property?

[ultrarunner]

The ATT farm cell tower project is officially dead.

ATT did all the engineering, soil samples, permits and approvals… it was a green light that was 3 years in the making but a shift at ATT corp cancelled many towers in the works…

The farm was not without costs which were mostly lawyer for contract review.

Maybe cell tower tech has peaked?

I was very surprised in Washington where no cell existed to have solid T-Mobil now.

Neighbor said it was tied to emergency services campaign to be able to reach as many as possible when needed. Verizon in same location has no service so it would seem no tower sharing?

 

[ponytug]

AT&T didn't build in our neighborhood either, so no cell service improvement here either.

5G drives a need for more towers closer together, so perhaps other towers went in below the farm, eliminating the need?

As far as I have seen, site sharing is not uncommon, but the only tower sharing I have seen was on some towers belonging to third parties, e.g. radio masts, tall billboards, etc. I could see that from an RF perspective, having someone else transmitting next to your receivers would be a headache and a half.

All the best, Peter

 

[kenmbz]

I have to Deal with ATT and corporate networks.
ATT is now a shell of it's former self and I don't think it has enough revenue to put in new infrastructure unless it can pay back quickly.

 

[LouNY]

Many of the towers around here have multiple antenna on them. As I understand it there are minimum separation required and the tower builder usually puts theirs on top were it has the best coverage.

 

[ultrarunner]

AT&T didn't build in our neighborhood either, so no cell service improvement here either.

5G drives a need for more towers closer together, so perhaps other towers went in below the farm, eliminating the need?

As far as I have seen, site sharing is not uncommon, but the only tower sharing I have seen was on some towers belonging to third parties, e.g. radio masts, tall billboards, etc. I could see that from an RF perspective, having someone else transmitting next to your receivers would be a headache and a half.

All the best, Peter

No improvement to existing service or new towers in the area.

There is lots of talk about urban boundary limit so it could be thinking future growth will be limited?

All of the survey stakes remain and the site chosen would seem optimal for the valley…

If ATT reverses course at a later date it may be too late as the approved site is outside the urban boundary.

There is a push by the community to “Preserve” the farm open space… with the majority of the farm becoming open space…

The original hope was for the tower lease to offset some of the annual 36k property tax bill as farm falls short of the minimum required acreage for AG designation…

 

[bdhsfz6]

The availability of cellular service via satellite is slowing new tower construction.

 

[34Willys]

I was very surprised in Washington where no cell existed to have solid T-Mobil now.

We switched to T-Mobile from US Cellular about a year ago and get much better service and coverage. T-Mobile have been investing in Rural areas adding Band 71/600Mhz, which is a longer wavelength signal that travels further, and trees, etc don't effect it as much.

Patrick

 

[rontaki]

When I first moved to where I'm living now, there was weak T-Mobile cell signal in maybe two spots on the property, if lucky. Since then, PG&E has cut a lot of trees down for fire safety. Coincidentally, the cell tower signal has greatly improved. Maybe 5G, maybe a push for better coverage? I don't know,but my pet theory is that trees that were blocking signal have been removed.

 

[grsthegreat]

Odd thing is Generac’s new cellular device can scan and use best service, whether that’s Verizon, at&t, whatever. Didnt think that was even a thing.

 

[RayIN]

AT&T is in the forefront to eliminate land line phones, there are a few other large carriers involved too.

 

[grsthegreat]

Neither verizon or frontier will repair a damaged line line in my part of the country. Broken and done here

 

[grsthegreat]

It’s also funny when someone posts a picture of a phone jack or phone wire and asked “what is this stuff”

 

[ultrarunner]

Well… I thought it would be simple to ditch the 65 year old landline of my folks and the $91 monthly base expense and port the family number over to Consumer Cellular 13.95 base no data to speak of service…

Order the flip phone and paid $45+ and declined express shipping.

Phone arrived and I called in on December 24th asking if I can activate after Christmas… sure, no problem.

Called in today and during the 41 minute call learned account cancelled and I would have to start over and that plan no longer available… sounds like fraud to me.

I said I’m returning phone and was told max credit is $26

Meanwhile, I’ve already been billed for partial month service on an account they cancelled…

65 years landline and no service issues, even during extended power failures.

It’s just the $91 a month that is hard to swallow.

 

[ultrarunner]

It’s also funny when someone posts a picture of a phone jack or phone wire and asked “what is this stuff”

As a landlord city ordinance still requires owner provides one working phone Jack per rental…

Jack to what is what I say?

 

[zzvyb6]

Look at the positives:
The value of your property will drop every year as people find out about cell tower radio frequency issues and possible diseases. In 25 years your property taxes ought to approach zero. But, the value of your $2500 check will drop too. but a free desert somewhere (with a coupon).

That blinking red light on the top will eliminate the need for light lights in the house. Some lights are now brilliant blue-white, insist on these to trip any epilepsy reactions in your family.

When an airplane accidently hits one, you may be entitled to get your house replaced for free.

Jumpers fed up with life may ask you for favors in notifying next of kin. Maybe you'll meet some very nice people along the way.

Don't have to worry about a new neighborhood being built next door. They'll move on.

If it get's hit by lightning, and you can prove it with video, your YouTube Channel checks will be amazing.

Because they have their own standby generators, if your power goes out because the new data center needed extra juice for storing the advice on how to make change for a dollar, you can probably tap into their power supply without anyone knowing.

When they become obsolete (because satellite technology will replace them), there's a certainly LOT of steel and copper to be available for scrap!
But still, what a great place to mount security cameras !

Deer stand? Oh my !
Good luck. Better you get one than me....

 

[grsthegreat]

Well… I thought it would be simple to ditch the 65 year old landline of my folks and the $91 monthly base expense and port the family number over to Consumer Cellular 13.95 base no data to speak of service…

Order the flip phone and paid $45+ and declined express shipping.

Phone arrived and I called in on December 24th asking if I can activate after Christmas… sure, no problem.

Called in today and during the 41 minute call learned account cancelled and I would have to start over and that plan no longer available… sounds like fraud to me.

I said I’m returning phone and was told max credit is $26

Meanwhile, I’ve already been billed for partial month service on an account they cancelled…

65 years landline and no service issues, even during extended power failures.

It’s just the $91 a month that is hard to swallow.

I don’t even pay $91 for 2 cell phone service.

 

[rontaki]

As a landlord city ordinance still requires owner provides one working phone Jack per rental…

Jack to what is what I say?

Rent the jack or jack the rent? Both??

 

[ponytug]

Odd thing is Generac’s new cellular device can scan and use best service, whether that’s Verizon, at&t, whatever. Didnt think that was even a thing.

For data service, there are a number of plans that offer service across most (all?) providers. It is very convenient when you have a gizmo going who knows where. You can ship it off and if there is cell service, it will use it. I have a couple.

All the best,

Peter

 

[ultrarunner]

Look at the positives:
The value of your property will drop every year as people find out about cell tower radio frequency issues and possible diseases. In 25 years your property taxes ought to approach zero. But, the value of your $2500 check will drop too. but a free desert somewhere (with a coupon).

That blinking red light on the top will eliminate the need for light lights in the house. Some lights are now brilliant blue-white, insist on these to trip any epilepsy reactions in your family.

When an airplane accidently hits one, you may be entitled to get your house replaced for free.

Jumpers fed up with life may ask you for favors in notifying next of kin. Maybe you'll meet some very nice people along the way.

Don't have to worry about a new neighborhood being built next door. They'll move on.

If it get's hit by lightning, and you can prove it with video, your YouTube Channel checks will be amazing.

Because they have their own standby generators, if your power goes out because the new data center needed extra juice for storing the advice on how to make change for a dollar, you can probably tap into their power supply without anyone knowing.

When they become obsolete (because satellite technology will replace them), there's a certainly LOT of steel and copper to be available for scrap!
But still, what a great place to mount security cameras !

Deer stand? Oh my !
Good luck. Better you get one than me....

Maybe… the farm house is the closet and only building and it’s 45 acres away… no trucks through the farm yard as tower would have dedicated access from a boundary road on the side.

The lease had built in CPI accelerator and a provision if tower is altered/expanded…

To the back and side tens of thousands of acres where cattle seasonally graze…

If RF is bad… I’m afraid we are already cooked.

 

[ultrarunner]

I don’t even pay $91 for 2 cell phone service.

Landline with associated city taxes and fees is getting very pricey and that only covers local calling.