Pickup Big Enough for BX?

[mjarrels]

Dusty,

A heavy half-ton pickup can haul a lot more than 1000 pounds legally. I haul a cabover camper that weighs 1375 pounds wet and have plenty of hauling weigh left over. I think my truck is rated to haul about 2150 pounds.

mark

 

[LBrown59]

LBrown59...... You are assuming that it is legal to put a 1300 pound BX into the bed of the pick up and that it is safe. That, in my opinion is not a proper assumption.

1*The basic BX (1800 / 2200) weighs aproximately 1300 pounds with the ROPS and no other equipment installed.
2*A half ton pick up has a load carrying capacity of 1000 pounds
Dusty

1*Well HeckThen: Weight wise I could haul a 1300 pound BX on my Dodge D-50 import PU. It has a payload of around 1345 pounds.
2*Don't think it works like so ,
1/2 ton 1000 #
3/4 ton 1500 #
1 ton 2000#

 

[LBrown59]

Dusty,

A heavy half-ton pickup can haul a lot more than 1000 pounds legally. I haul a cabover camper that weighs 1375 pounds wet and have plenty of hauling weigh left over. I think my truck is rated to haul about 2150 pounds.

mark

Right you are the 1/2 or 3/4 ton classification has little to do with the actual payload capacity of the truck.

 

[KeithInSpace]

Right you are the 1/2 or 3/4 ton classification has little to do with the actual payload capacity of the truck.

Regular Toyota Tacoma, for example, has a payload capacity of 1,485 lbs. Research reveals an old-school Ram 50 (the little Mitsu version) can hold a little over 1,500 lbs. Depending on the configuration and options, you can get a late model "half-ton" F150 to hold over 3,000 lbs in the bed.

But I used to tow my 5,200 lb boat with my Toyota 4Runner, which is mechanically identical to the Tacoma, without a problem. Wasn't getting any speeding tickets, but it worked just fine for short distances (towed it about 10 miles max). Load over the rear axle is limited, but overall towing capacity is tremendous considering its size.

Probably be OK with machine and loader in the back of a little truck if you can get it up there without killing the tailgate. But I wouldn't take any corners over 5 mph. And god bless your soul if you whack something immobile.

 

[LBrown59]

1*Research reveals an old-school Ram 50 (the little Mitsu version) can hold a little over 1,500 lbs.
2*But I used to tow my 5,200 lb boat with my Toyota 4Runner, which is mechanically identical to the Tacoma, without a problem.
3*overall towing capacity is tremendous considering its size.

Regular Toyota Tacoma, for example, has a payload capacity of 1,485 lbs. Research reveals an old-school Ram 50 (the little Mitsu version) can hold a little over 1,500 lbs. Depending on the configuration and options, you can get a late model "half-ton" F150 to hold over 3,000 lbs in the bed.

But I used to tow my 5,200 lb boat with my Toyota 4Runner, which is mechanically identical to the Tacoma, without a problem. Wasn't getting any speeding tickets, but it worked just fine for short distances (towed it about 10 miles max). Load over the rear axle is limited, but overall towing capacity is tremendous considering its size.

Probably be OK with machine and loader in the back of a little truck if you can get it up there without killing the tailgate. But I wouldn't take any corners over 5 mph. And god bless your soul if you whack something immobile.

>> >>>1*I hauled a 1000 # of slag with my little Dodge Ram 50 (the little Mitsu version) the other day. It was still loaded a little under pay load.
These little trucks are the most under rated import pick ups.
2*So would you think I could tow my BX23 with one of my Ram 50s or my Toyota or Nissan?
3*For their size and weight these little import trucks have as much or more grunt than the full size trucks.
>>>> >>>>
MY First Car
http://chevy.tocmp.com/chevyscrapbook/files/kamp50.jpg
Our First Car
1960 Chevy Impala Convertible, Classic Car Pictures

 

[Dusty]

What type of license plates do you have on that little truck.... commercial? What does it cost to register a pick up truck in Ohio? Do you pay by the payload or is it flat fee?
Dusty

 

[thcri]

Right you are the 1/2 or 3/4 ton classification has little to do with the actual payload capacity of the truck.

Larry, I think you need to do some explaining here. You mean to tell me that after all of these years buying 1 ton trucks I could have hauled the same with a cheaper 1/2 ton truck??

 

[LBrown59]

Larry, I think you need to do some explaining here.
You mean to tell me that after all of these years buying 1 ton trucks I could have hauled the same with a cheaper 1/2 ton truck??

I'd say the posters I was responding to pretty much explained it.
That seems to be the overall theme of this thread.

 

[Dusty]

I'd say the posters I was responding to pretty much explained it.
That seems to be the overall theme of this thread.

Could you please further explain it for me, and please answer my other question.
"What type of license plates do you have on that little truck.... commercial? What does it cost to register a pick up truck in Ohio? Do you pay by the payload or is it flat fee? "
Thanks

 

[AndyM]

What type of license plates do you have on that little truck.... commercial? What does it cost to register a pick up truck in Ohio? Do you pay by the payload or is it flat fee?
Dusty

I found the registration fees for Ohio online for non-commercial and commercial trucks...
Vehicle Registration Fees
This fees do not include additional county taxes that can be up to another 20 dollars per registration, depending on county.

I kept a small truck around for hauling things and a van for towing, but I sold both of them because of the expense of the license, insurance, fuel, maintenance, etc. With all of the fees and taxes, even non-commercial plates alone were almost $70.00 per vehicle... I can only imagine LB's expense, having four small pickup trucks!

 

[Dargo]

3*For their size and weight these little import trucks have as much or more grunt than the full size trucks.

Well, hot dog, why didn't you say so before?! To think, I've been wasting fuel all this time by using a 1 ton dually with a Cummins to tow my 20k gooseneck trailer. I think my trailer weighs somewhere around 6500 pounds empty and my tractor with the hog and loader on it weighs about 7500 pounds. Since one of those little 4 cylinder pickups "have as much or more grunt than the full size trucks", I can save tons on fuel hauling my load! Since they will pull my 14k trailer no problem, are you sure they will stop the load okay? I need to know that before I dump my diesel and go with a D50.

 

[LBrown59]

I found the registration fees for Ohio online for non-commercial and commercial trucks...
Vehicle Registration Fees
This fees do not include additional county taxes that can be up to another 20 dollars per registration, depending on county.

I kept a small truck around for hauling things and a van for towing, but I sold both of them because of the expense of the license, insurance, fuel, maintenance, etc. With all of the fees and taxes, even non-commercial plates alone were almost $70.00 per vehicle... I can only imagine LB's expense, having four small pickup trucks!

To cut expenses I never have more than 2 of them licensed and insured at the same time.
They are all non commercial.
The 86 Dodge D50 is the only one licensed & insured 12 months A year.
The 89 Dodge D50 is only licensed & insured during Oct through March. It is placed in storage during the remaining 6 month of the year.
The 89 Nissan is only licensed and insured April through June and is in storage the other 9 months of the year.
The 92 Toyota is licensed and insured July through Sept and is stored the other 9 months of the year.
This schedule greatly reduces license and insurance expenses.
>>> >>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>

 

[thcri]

Well, hot dog, why didn't you say so before?! To think, I've been wasting fuel all this time by using a 1 ton dually with a Cummins to tow my 20k gooseneck trailer.

Yeah, Wait until I tell my board of directors that the 40; 3/4 ton and 1 ton trucks they have in the parking lot could have been 1/2 tons. When they start thinking how much gas they could have saved, vehicle upfront cost;

Well, I might be losing my job???

 

[Dargo]

Yeah, Wait until I tell my board of directors that the 40; 3/4 ton and 1 ton trucks they have in the parking lot could have been 1/2 tons. When they start thinking how much gas they could have saved, vehicle upfront cost;

Well, I might be losing my job???

You're toast!!

 

[LBrown59]

Well, hot dog, why didn't you say so before?! To think, I've been wasting fuel all this time by using a 1 ton dually with a Cummins to tow my 20k gooseneck trailer. I think my trailer weighs somewhere around 6500 pounds empty and my tractor with the hog and loader on it weighs about 7500 pounds. Since one of those little 4 cylinder pickups "have as much or more grunt than the full size trucks", I can save tons on fuel hauling my load! Since they will pull my 14k trailer no problem, are you sure they will stop the load okay? I need to know that before I dump my diesel and go with a D50.

Well, double Hot Digity Dog and a dab of mustard too nobodies talking about your tractor and trailer - the thread is about hauling a little ole BX in the bed of a 1/2 ton PU.
I only posed the question/statment thought that if you can haul a BX in the bed of a 1/2 ton Pick Up then why couldn't you tow a trailer with a BX on it with that same truck.
This is a far cry from what you're jabbering about in your post above.
BTW My Question/ thought has never been answered .

>>> >>>

 

[LBrown59]

Yeah, Wait until I tell my board of directors that the 40; 3/4 ton and 1 ton trucks they have in the parking lot could have been 1/2 tons. When they start thinking how much gas they could have saved, vehicle upfront cost;

Well, I might be losing my job???

Just like Dargo you've veered clear off the theme if this thread and away from the issue I'm addressing.

 

[flusher]

I'm buying a BX2230 w/mmm+bagger, no FEL and was wondering how best to transport it. I don't have a truck but I can rent one. Is there a pickup large enough to carry it? Or should I be looking at something else. I'll probably rent it. Distance is 800mi roundtrip. Thx

I have an F150 long bed/short cab that easily handles 4'x8' sheets of plywood. Your BX should fit on that footprint.

You will need some stout ramps to get the BX into the pickup bed. And then you'll need to rent a trailer for the MMM and bagger.

It might be easier to rent a flat bed trailer with a stout ramp for the BX and put the other stuff in the pickup bed.

I would recommend that you visit the TBN forum on trailers and search for threads on tie-downs. You want to do that right on the first try so you don't have problems with shifting loads while in transit.

 

[thcri]

Well, double Hot Digity Dog and a dab of mustard too nobodies talking about your tractor and trailer - >

Isn't in this case the word "too" should it not be "two"?

 

[Dargo]

BTW My Question/ thought has never been answered .

>>> >>>

You know, for some strange reason, I can believe that.

 

[Tom_H]

BTW My Question/ thought has never been answered.

And let's remember that for several years running you have not answered Junkman's questions about showing the receipts for:

1.) the unbelievably low price you claim to have paid for your BX23.

2.) the $5 license plate you claim to have.

It is also you who has claimed that:

3.) a deck you built with 2 x 4 joists is stronger than one with 2 x 10 joists.

4.) mobile homes are better built and stronger than stick built houses.

Further, numerous people have tried to help you get along better with other members, yet you still do your best to provoke them. When members become frustrated with you, the first thing you do is run off to the moderators to claim that you've been mistreated. Discussions on an internet board can often be a lot more difficult than face to face discussions. We can't hear tone of voice, see body language or facial expressions, and we can't get immediate clarification in mid-discussion regarding something that sounds unusual or confusing. I've been in my share of heated discussions on TBN as well, but I'm trying to learn how to say things more clearly and without provoking others. It was Bird's patience with me that made me decide to try to do better. I've found that it helps to write a post, but then let it sit; wait awhile and reread it. Think carefully how it will come across to others, and edit it carefully before posting it. Does the wording have a sharp edge? Does the content say something that would defy common reasoning-if it does, a carefully worded and thought out explanation is helpful. When someone makes a reply to me that seems hotheaded, my first impulse is to mount a hurried and angry counterattack. I've tried to learn to just calm down and wait a day or two before making a more pacific and reasoned response, or to just let it go and let the other guy have the last word. After all, it's doubtful that I'll ever meet him face to face, and the only way he can affect me is in my own attitude and the way that spills over into the real (non-cyber) world and the real people around me in the brick and mortar world. And letting online discussions perturb me and sour my attitude towards others in my real world surroundings just isn't worth it. I've noticed that Eddie Walker rarely gets sharply worded replys, but when he does, he never responds; he just ignores it and continues a polite discussion with the other members. Thanks for being a good example Eddie.

Give this some thought LBrown, which would you really prefer: arguing with other people or being able to have a pleasant discussion?