Oppinions on an agressive dog

[Bird]

They either observe it or kill it and examine the brain tissue. A shotgun blast to the head could have made the brain biopsy impossible. There are other tissue samples that can be used but brain is the standard from what I remember.

I never had to shoot a dog or any other animal while I was a police officer, but in rookie school, we were taught that IF we ever had to shoot an animal that was to examined for rabies, to NOT shoot it in the head, for the reason you've just stated. We were taught that the head was what was sent to the lab.

 

[Dargo]

I never had to shoot a dog or any other animal while I was a police officer, but in rookie school, we were taught that IF we ever had to shoot an animal that was to examined for rabies, to NOT shoot it in the head, for the reason you've just stated. We were taught that the head was what was sent to the lab.

If I had to guess, whoever it was that shot the dog most likely was not in law enforcement. My assumption was that the dog may not have been cooperative in being quietly coaxed into a dog carrier and that was likely when the accident happened and law enforcement was summoned to the area. I was only 12 at the time and confined to a wheelchair. I promise I had nothing to do with the matter.

 

[Sigarms]

the law provides for the health department to take and quarantine the animal after a bite if the owner doesn't provide satisfactory assurance to confine and isolate it for the observation period.

You should find even in most rural areas, that is the case if indeed you know who the dogs owner is and the dog is located.

We were taught that the head was what was sent to the lab.

Correct.

As George pointed out, shooting the dog in the head may do more harm than good to see if "rabies shots" are needed for the dogs victim.

Anyone who has their dog's rabies vaccination up to date should keep those records on file in a secure location, and not just rely on the rabies tag on the collar. This is not to protect the pet in case it mauls someone, but in case the pet gets bitten by a wild animal and people witness the incident.

 

[scott_vt]

All animals are animals and no one on the planet can determine when or what an animal will do.

I had a rottweiler that I loved like a child, but the day I brought my baby home I got rid of the dog. Now I have trained dogs for the police and have trained and been around aggressive dogs for 40 years so I'm not just shooting off my mouth.

There is something about dogs and babies that does not compute with them, I don't know if it's the size of babies or what but more than often dogs attack babies.

I had one dog that was amazing and one of the best trained dogs I owned and wouldn't even eat steak without a command from me, but one day my brother did something the dog didn't like and it went for my brothers throat, I had to kill it on the spot to get him off my brother.

Oh sure the next 100 posts will say I've had a so and so and I've had no problems....it's you choice, but you have been warned.

Good Afternoon Cat_Driver,
A lot of interesting posts on this thread !

Im responding because of an incident that happened last night with my youngest sons' dog who is a 3 month old rottweiler male pup named Rocky.

I would like to begin by saying that I have raised a couple of dogs, the most rescent was a weimeraner that I had for over 13 years. Im not afraid of dogs but do have a healthy respect for them ! I trained him myself and never did I worry about him around people or children !

My son who has his own place bought the pup at 7 weeks and he was immediately crate trained and actually enjoys his crate at night or the end of the day !

We were at my sons softball game, and I took him from my sons girlfriend who was looking for a break. I had him on a leash and he was knawing on a large ham bone that we had given him when his front leg got tangled up in the leash. I tried to untangle his leg when he turned on me and bit me on my left finger and right thumb ! Quicker than I could say Scotty ! I tried to get him under control with the leash but my son had a puppy collar on him that quickly came off ! He really suprised me ! My wife and I tooik him for the weekend two weeks ago and he seemed fine.

My son has him enrolled in puppy school and works with him on a daily basis, working on his commands, sit , laydown etc...

My son was pretty upset about me getting nipped and wants to rectify this problem immediatedly ! I can deal with a puppy that acts aggressively but a 130 lb rottweiler is not my idea of fun if he gets aggressive !

I think my son Doug would do anything to rectify that problem, but as I have said to my wife, I dont think I would want a baby around a dog that had any aggressiveness to it !

Just a few moments prior to that happening some of the small kids at the ball park were petting him and he was fine but at that time he didnt have a ham bone.

Im not sure of what my son is going to do but it should be interesting !

 

[tallyho8]

Many young dogs will behave aggressively when you try to take their food away (or if they think you are trying to). This type of aggression can be trained out of a young dog easily enough if the owner is willing to put in the time. NOW is the time to start the training. If the dog fails to quickly respond to the training, he is not the dog you want.

 

[Bird]

Maybe this baby will live.
My Way News - Dog drags newborn from family home in Ky.

 

[Sigarms]

This type of aggression can be trained out of a young dog easily enough if the owner is willing to put in the time. NOW is the time to start the training. If the dog fails to quickly respond to the training, he is not the dog you want.

Usually the owner isn't willing, or the idea of "training" consists of either scolding or hitting the animal.

 

[Kyle_in_Tex]

scotty, throw that dog on it's back (belly exposed) and show him who's boss. Not good behaviour for a pup.

 

[carpenter383]

Well I can't talk her into getting rid of oz. We're gonna get him neutered and keep a close eye on him. So far he has'nt had any problems with kids at all just other animals, and hopefully if he's neutered it'll mellow him out.
I have watched the dog whisperer and he does some pretty amazing things. I use his method of holding the dog down by it's neck with your fingers acting as teeth. It seems to work good. Like I said before I believe both dogs see me as the pack leader and I'll make sure they see my daughter as their supperior too.

 

[DanD78]

I can tell by your post that you have a gut feeling the dog could be a problem. Get rid of the problem.

Dan

 

[jimmyj]

You're in a tough spot carpenter. Make sure your wife also is involved in this exercise. Good luck.

 

[texbaylea]

We have owned, bred and raised Boxers for 50 years and rarely have encountered an agressive one. Boxers are normally very people oriented and protective and tolerant toward children.

You did not give any history for that dog but it sounds like somewhere it was abused enough to make it that way. We had taken back one Boxer where the neighbor's kids tormented it trough the fence and it could not be trusted around other children. We placed it in a adult home where there was no chance it would have access to children.

As much as I love Boxers I recommend that you find another home for that dog if possible. Boxers have unique personalities and require different training techniques than most other breeds. That dog can be rehabilitated but you can not do it by fear. You must firmly convince him that he must behave differently and it is a long and difficult process and you absolutely must be alpha.

Vernon

 

[texbaylea]

re: Cesar Millan. We have just returned from the big dog show in Houston where we are part of the show management. Cesar Millan was a featured event in the previous show in San Antonio and a few of our friends had attended (for a big fee). They were tremendously disappointed. He talked for a half an hour in generalities and then answered some questions again in generalities any dog trainer could have used. They felt that his reputation was all hype.

Vernon

 

[PBinWA]

Do a google search for Cesar Millan: The Dog Whisperer. National Geographic Channel has been doing a series on him for a number of years now. I swear, I have never seen anything like it. He takes all kinds of dogs with agressive behavior and other wierd behaviors and turns them into gentle normal dogs. You should watch his show. You can order some of the TV series on DVD. We used his techniques to train our dog and it really work.

I have seen many episodes where he takes "red zone" dogs (very agressive dogs that people have given up on and are about to put down) and rehabilitates the dogs. A very big part of it though is training the owners how to get the dog to be and stay that way.

I just can't say enough about Cesar. Check it out.

Welcome to Cesar Millan's Official Web Site

Dog Whisperer | National Geographic Channel

+1 on this Recommendation. Check with your local library if you can't afford the videos or books. Our local library had most of his books and many seasons of his show on DVD.

Nothing but pure common sense from him. He rehabilitates dogs and TRAINS people.

Exercise, Discipline, then affection.

 

[PBinWA]

re: Cesar Millan. We have just returned from the big dog show in Houston where we are part of the show management. Cesar Millan was a featured event in the previous show in San Antonio and a few of our friends had attended (for a big fee). They were tremendously disappointed. He talked for a half an hour in generalities and then answered some questions again in generalities any dog trainer could have used. They felt that his reputation was all hype.

Vernon

What do you expect to get in half an hour? Honestly, his techniques are very simple and obvious. Its usually the owners that have a hard time understanding or adapting to the psychology of the dogs.

Cesar isn't promoting anything new. Many of his techniques have been around for a long time. He just has a good way of trying to get dog owners to understand why their dogs are acting the way they are.

Problem dogs are just that - problems. They take more time and effort than the happy go-lucky dog that just seems to get along.

If you aren't prepared to change your ways to correct a misbehaving dog then you are best to get rid of it because there is no "miracle" cure that will make your dog behave better without you having to commit some time and effort to correcting it.

 

[texbaylea]

What do you expect to get in half an hour? Honestly, his techniques are very simple and obvious. Its usually the owners that have a hard time understanding or adapting to the psychology of the dogs.

Cesar isn't promoting anything new. Many of his techniques have been around for a long time. He just has a good way of trying to get dog owners to understand why their dogs are acting the way they are.

Problem dogs are just that - problems. They take more time and effort than the happy go-lucky dog that just seems to get along.

If you aren't prepared to change your ways to correct a misbehaving dog then you are best to get rid of it because there is no "miracle" cure that will make your dog behave better without you having to commit some time and effort to correcting it.

These were people that have owned, bred and trained dogs for many years. That was their point, that he really has nothing new. I have not seen any of the shows about him so can not comment of my own knowledge but I trust the opinions of these people.

However, he may reach those with less experience with dogs and do some good that way. They felt that he and his "handlers" were cashing in on the "Horse Whisperer" type of thing.

Again, if he can get through to some dog owners he has done some good.

We have bred 26 litters of Boxers over the years, all from show stock where we know the attributes of the ancestors. In the case of the Boxer in question, either the dog was abused as a puppy or there is something in it's background that makes him aggressive.

It may be a long hard job to get him properly socialized. If it can be done you will have a very good dog. I know that once a Boxer is bonded to a child it is very protective of that child even against the parents. Such a Boxer will also tolerate almost anything the child will do to it.

Vernon

 

[LBrown59]

Time for a little lead poison

 

[Sigarms]

Boxers are normally very people oriented and protective and tolerant toward children.

The same can be said for the American Pit Bull. One of the issues is though that people don't think.

I know that once a Boxer is bonded to a child it is very protective of that child even against the parents. Such a Boxer will also tolerate almost anything the child will do to it.

You could say the same thing for most dogs.

scotty, throw that dog on it's back (belly exposed) and show him who's boss. Not good behaviour for a pup.

Keep in mind, a two year old Boxer is not a pup.

In the case of the Boxer in question, either the dog was abused as a puppy or there is something in it's background that makes him aggressive.

BINGO! However, some would argue that "it's background" is the breed iteself.

and it is a long and difficult process

Most people are lazy.

As much as I love Boxers I recommend that you find another home for that dog if possible

Agreed. The issue is that the dog has "went after" other animals on more than one occasion, and having a family, you may not have the time nessesary (sp) for the propper training of the animal.

If you aren't prepared to change your ways to correct a misbehaving dog then you are best to get rid of it because there is no "miracle" cure that will make your dog behave better without you having to commit some time and effort to correcting it.

VERY well said.

Keep in mind, Cesar is good with animals, but he knows how to make money. Dogs don't pay, people do.

Time for a little lead poison

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I feel sorry for you.

 

[milkman]

Well I can't talk her into getting rid of oz. We're gonna get him neutered and keep a close eye on him. So far he has'nt had any problems with kids at all just other animals, and hopefully if he's neutered it'll mellow him out.
I have watched the dog whisperer and he does some pretty amazing things. I use his method of holding the dog down by it's neck with your fingers acting as teeth. It seems to work good. Like I said before I believe both dogs see me as the pack leader and I'll make sure they see my daughter as their supperior too.

Hope we don't have another gut wrenching story like this one "Sad story/rats", just not worth the risk as far as I'm concerned.

Sigarms, Feel sorry for me too, I'd chose LB's method over risking the baby.

 

[Sigarms]

Sigarms, Feel sorry for me too, I'd chose LB's method over risking the baby.

I will. Sure it doesn't matter to you, really nor to me though as well.

The dog knows who the alpha is in the house.

If you actually READ an of my comments, I mentioned that the dog should go.

Easy and lazy way out is to kill the dog. People are lazy.