Oppinions on an agressive dog

[jimmyj]

You're in a tough spot carpenter. Make sure your wife also is involved in this exercise. Good luck.

 

[texbaylea]

We have owned, bred and raised Boxers for 50 years and rarely have encountered an agressive one. Boxers are normally very people oriented and protective and tolerant toward children.

You did not give any history for that dog but it sounds like somewhere it was abused enough to make it that way. We had taken back one Boxer where the neighbor's kids tormented it trough the fence and it could not be trusted around other children. We placed it in a adult home where there was no chance it would have access to children.

As much as I love Boxers I recommend that you find another home for that dog if possible. Boxers have unique personalities and require different training techniques than most other breeds. That dog can be rehabilitated but you can not do it by fear. You must firmly convince him that he must behave differently and it is a long and difficult process and you absolutely must be alpha.

Vernon

 

[texbaylea]

re: Cesar Millan. We have just returned from the big dog show in Houston where we are part of the show management. Cesar Millan was a featured event in the previous show in San Antonio and a few of our friends had attended (for a big fee). They were tremendously disappointed. He talked for a half an hour in generalities and then answered some questions again in generalities any dog trainer could have used. They felt that his reputation was all hype.

Vernon

 

[PBinWA]

Do a google search for Cesar Millan: The Dog Whisperer. National Geographic Channel has been doing a series on him for a number of years now. I swear, I have never seen anything like it. He takes all kinds of dogs with agressive behavior and other wierd behaviors and turns them into gentle normal dogs. You should watch his show. You can order some of the TV series on DVD. We used his techniques to train our dog and it really work.

I have seen many episodes where he takes "red zone" dogs (very agressive dogs that people have given up on and are about to put down) and rehabilitates the dogs. A very big part of it though is training the owners how to get the dog to be and stay that way.

I just can't say enough about Cesar. Check it out.

Welcome to Cesar Millan's Official Web Site

Dog Whisperer | National Geographic Channel

+1 on this Recommendation. Check with your local library if you can't afford the videos or books. Our local library had most of his books and many seasons of his show on DVD.

Nothing but pure common sense from him. He rehabilitates dogs and TRAINS people.

Exercise, Discipline, then affection.

 

[PBinWA]

re: Cesar Millan. We have just returned from the big dog show in Houston where we are part of the show management. Cesar Millan was a featured event in the previous show in San Antonio and a few of our friends had attended (for a big fee). They were tremendously disappointed. He talked for a half an hour in generalities and then answered some questions again in generalities any dog trainer could have used. They felt that his reputation was all hype.

Vernon

What do you expect to get in half an hour? Honestly, his techniques are very simple and obvious. Its usually the owners that have a hard time understanding or adapting to the psychology of the dogs.

Cesar isn't promoting anything new. Many of his techniques have been around for a long time. He just has a good way of trying to get dog owners to understand why their dogs are acting the way they are.

Problem dogs are just that - problems. They take more time and effort than the happy go-lucky dog that just seems to get along.

If you aren't prepared to change your ways to correct a misbehaving dog then you are best to get rid of it because there is no "miracle" cure that will make your dog behave better without you having to commit some time and effort to correcting it.

 

[texbaylea]

What do you expect to get in half an hour? Honestly, his techniques are very simple and obvious. Its usually the owners that have a hard time understanding or adapting to the psychology of the dogs.

Cesar isn't promoting anything new. Many of his techniques have been around for a long time. He just has a good way of trying to get dog owners to understand why their dogs are acting the way they are.

Problem dogs are just that - problems. They take more time and effort than the happy go-lucky dog that just seems to get along.

If you aren't prepared to change your ways to correct a misbehaving dog then you are best to get rid of it because there is no "miracle" cure that will make your dog behave better without you having to commit some time and effort to correcting it.

These were people that have owned, bred and trained dogs for many years. That was their point, that he really has nothing new. I have not seen any of the shows about him so can not comment of my own knowledge but I trust the opinions of these people.

However, he may reach those with less experience with dogs and do some good that way. They felt that he and his "handlers" were cashing in on the "Horse Whisperer" type of thing.

Again, if he can get through to some dog owners he has done some good.

We have bred 26 litters of Boxers over the years, all from show stock where we know the attributes of the ancestors. In the case of the Boxer in question, either the dog was abused as a puppy or there is something in it's background that makes him aggressive.

It may be a long hard job to get him properly socialized. If it can be done you will have a very good dog. I know that once a Boxer is bonded to a child it is very protective of that child even against the parents. Such a Boxer will also tolerate almost anything the child will do to it.

Vernon

 

[LBrown59]

Time for a little lead poison

 

[Sigarms]

Boxers are normally very people oriented and protective and tolerant toward children.

The same can be said for the American Pit Bull. One of the issues is though that people don't think.

I know that once a Boxer is bonded to a child it is very protective of that child even against the parents. Such a Boxer will also tolerate almost anything the child will do to it.

You could say the same thing for most dogs.

scotty, throw that dog on it's back (belly exposed) and show him who's boss. Not good behaviour for a pup.

Keep in mind, a two year old Boxer is not a pup.

In the case of the Boxer in question, either the dog was abused as a puppy or there is something in it's background that makes him aggressive.

BINGO! However, some would argue that "it's background" is the breed iteself.

and it is a long and difficult process

Most people are lazy.

As much as I love Boxers I recommend that you find another home for that dog if possible

Agreed. The issue is that the dog has "went after" other animals on more than one occasion, and having a family, you may not have the time nessesary (sp) for the propper training of the animal.

If you aren't prepared to change your ways to correct a misbehaving dog then you are best to get rid of it because there is no "miracle" cure that will make your dog behave better without you having to commit some time and effort to correcting it.

VERY well said.

Keep in mind, Cesar is good with animals, but he knows how to make money. Dogs don't pay, people do.

Time for a little lead poison

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I feel sorry for you.

 

[milkman]

Well I can't talk her into getting rid of oz. We're gonna get him neutered and keep a close eye on him. So far he has'nt had any problems with kids at all just other animals, and hopefully if he's neutered it'll mellow him out.
I have watched the dog whisperer and he does some pretty amazing things. I use his method of holding the dog down by it's neck with your fingers acting as teeth. It seems to work good. Like I said before I believe both dogs see me as the pack leader and I'll make sure they see my daughter as their supperior too.

Hope we don't have another gut wrenching story like this one "Sad story/rats", just not worth the risk as far as I'm concerned.

Sigarms, Feel sorry for me too, I'd chose LB's method over risking the baby.

 

[Sigarms]

Sigarms, Feel sorry for me too, I'd chose LB's method over risking the baby.

I will. Sure it doesn't matter to you, really nor to me though as well.

The dog knows who the alpha is in the house.

If you actually READ an of my comments, I mentioned that the dog should go.

Easy and lazy way out is to kill the dog. People are lazy.