Ok, I need a nudge

YesDeere · Feb 17, 2010

The 790 has been a great tractor but I am pushing its limits. Am going to trade up. My father is trading an 04 4310 loader hoe in good shape. Will this fill my need? need more 3pt lift (pallets of wood) and faster hydraulics (splitter) and want hydro for mowing. This last snow also made me realize how light the 790 is no traction.

YesDeere · Feb 17, 2010

Also wondering if anyone has the correct specs on the hydraulic system. conflicted I've read 8 and 14gpm.

jenkinsph · Feb 18, 2010

If it were me I would go larger if you need more gpm hydraulics, I would consider a 4105 on the cheap or better a 4120. This would be a noticable difference in tractor size and abilities. I would think you would be best off deciding what you really want an need to do your work and then look around for the best deal new or used.

kennyd · Feb 18, 2010

This should answer a few questions for you:

4x10 Series Sales Brochure

YesDeere · Feb 18, 2010

Thanks for the input guys. It's gonna be one of those too good to pass up deals. Almost an even swap. He's getting something with a cab hopefully a 4720. So that means the backhoe won't work and he still needs it so he wants me to have it. I've used the 4310 and it seems like a great tractor. Won't know how to act not having to shift, all I've ever run

kennyd · Feb 18, 2010

I am local...

Wayne_H · Feb 18, 2010

YesDeere said:
Thanks for the input guys. It's gonna be one of those too good to pass up deals. Almost an even swap. He's getting something with a cab hopefully a 4720. So that means the backhoe won't work and he still needs it so he wants me to have it. I've used the 4310 and it seems like a great tractor. Won't know how to act not having to shift, all I've ever run

Our friends on 214 have a 4720 with cab in stock. It has my foot prints in it.

Wayne

kennyd · Feb 18, 2010

Wayne_H said:
Our friends on 214 have a 4720 with cab in stock. It has my foot prints in it.

Wayne

Any slobber or drool?

Wayne_H · Feb 18, 2010

kennyd said:
Any slobber or drool?

The cab is nice Kenny. I'm not 100% sold on how they do the linkage for the FEL, and I'm just not sure its built as well as the 4400 frankly. Again, don't real tractors all use zerks all over the place? Maybe I just need to get over things like that, but it is a boat load of money, and it probably won't snow here for five more years...

The one thing I saw on all the 3x20 and newer machines is in addition to the water seperator for the fuel, they have an external fuel filter. Good addition.

Wayne

GreatWhitehunter · Feb 19, 2010

The cab unit's sure are the cat's meow. The price on these cuts is pretty high compared to performance. If your looking for bigger performance and more bang for your buck then look into a utility tractor.

Matt

jdboy4410 · Feb 21, 2010

i have a 4410,it's a work horse.there is plenty of power to do everything i need to do.i put a 60" snow thrower on it a couple of weeks ago and it handles it with ease,almost wish i waited till a 72" came along,but,i needed it for the storm we just had.i do alot of loader work with it and never have had one problem.it is the ehydro model,i bought it new in 04 and have about 275 hours on it now.before i bought it,i considered the 990,but opted for the 4410 due to everything i do is on hill and the ehydro just made more sense to have for operating ease.the 990 has a little more power,but,only available in gear drive.nice meat and potatoes tractor and comparable in price,but the 4410 was the better choice.the 4310 is a great tractor,and with a hoe will come in handy.always wanted one,but could never justify the cost of them for as much as i would need it.looked at the aftermarket hoe's,but i would'nt recommend a 3pt hook up hoe for the 4310 or the 4410 as the rear axle housings are made of aluminum and have been known to break off.you need the power beyond kit to use a hoe on these tractors as it provides a more secure attatchment set up.i did see a 3pt set up break one of these series tractors in half at a rental place.so,needless to say,the 3 pt set up for a hoe is'nt a good thing for these tractors.otherwise,you can't go wrong with the 4310,very nice machine for general purpose work.

YesDeere · Feb 26, 2010

Thanks for the input 4410. I appreciate the input. My father and I have decided to go ahead with this deal. He ordered the 4720 today and my 790 is listed. I really can't wait! I'm not sure which one I'm more excted about running. Gon be a good Spring!

RoyJackson · Feb 28, 2010

jdboy4410 said:
...a hoe will come in handy.always wanted one,but could never justify the cost of them for as much as i would need it.looked at the aftermarket hoe's,but i would'nt recommend a 3pt hook up hoe for the 4310 or the 4410 as the rear axle housings are made of aluminum and have been known to break off.

JD, remember that 4410 (with backhoe) I wrote about in your other post (about chains)? It's still stuck about halfway down the guy's driveway. Been at least a week setting there.
At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if the guy gave it away!

Back on topic: I'm a 790 fan, but those 4310's are outstanding machines...some of Deere's best. I'd love one, but would prefer the reverser transmission.
Jdboy has a good point about 3ph mounted 'hoes.

beenthere · Feb 28, 2010

I've the 4300, and I think you are making a good choice...reasonable for the moment, and won't lose value in your future upgrades.

As to the lift on the 3 ph, here is a double stack of ash firewood, that I had to counter weight the snowblade on the front to keep the front end down. I think you will be happy with it. And the HST is great.

Red Beast · Feb 28, 2010

got wood? nice stack there mate.

roquefortnight · Feb 28, 2010

I've gotten good use from my 4300 HST I bought new a few years ago, and mostly like the way it is engineered (why I bought it over the other brands at the time, I'm not up on the newer models), though I'm currently having a hydraulic problem which you can see on another thread. If you do a lot of back and forth, like turning a manure pile for example, the hydrostatic transmission will dramatically cut the time you need to spend on such jobs.

As regards the splitter, before I got my JD I was using a borrowed old Ford 8N with a PTO-mounted hydraulic pump splitter. It worked well, except for almost asphyxiating on the rear-exiting exhaust, and I was looking for one when I got my Deere. Why have yet another engine to take care of? But ultimately I reckoned that running the tractor the whole time would probably use a lot of fuel and add a lot of hours to my machine, and I ended up getting a standard model tow-behind splitter with a single-cylinder motor. At the time Bailey's was offering a good deal on it. For me this was a good choice, especially if I can get someone to help me with splitting: one person can bring the stove-length logs in the bucket and another operates the splitter. So at this point that's what I recommend to friends, for what it's worth.

roquefortnight · Feb 28, 2010

One more thing about wood splitters: whichever way you go I would recommend you get the type where the wedge moves with the cylinder. The one I had borrowed had the wedge on the end, and I very nearly ruined my hand when I got tired and careless and let my left hand slip between the log and the wedge while I worked the valve with my right hand. I had a big diagonal welt on the back of my hand that went from near my wrist at the little finger to my knuckle on my index finger. Luckily, I felt the pinch and was able to react in time. That would have been a pile of wood dearly paid for. Maybe it could have been just as bad if I had mashed my hand instead of almost chopping it in half, but ever since I've been biased toward the type where the anvil is on the end.