oil cooler

[jfischer]

Josh, where did you measure those temps at, the tank, cooler, or just where. I have never checked mine, will see what it is.

After mower grass on a 85 degree day for about half an hour (engine at full throttle) the Shell Rottella 15w-40 was 147 degrees.

 

[woodlandfarms]

Tank should be the proper place to check temps although I guess you could do it on the outflow of the radiator.

 

[5dphilip]

Dragging harrow for 30ish minutes. 190 reservoir oil 170 tank metal. At this point i couldnt go up the smallest incline. Just for a test i hooked up pto to log splitter and my oil cooler fan came on instantly.

Should i plumb the oil cooler into the main hydraulics rather than just pto? Running 10w40 like the book says. Kansas summer. Temp is 90-95 and humid. Running engine at full or 3/4 makes no difference. 30hp deutz. It never bogs, i just hear hydraulic whine. Any ideas? Basically i have no power after machine gets worked for a good 30min (if you haven't read the whole trend)

 

[5dphilip]

Talked to tazedale. They said my pump is shot. They want me to send it in for rebuild.

 

[5dphilip]

Talked to tazedale. They said my pump is shot. They want me to send it in for rebuild. $1500

 

[Marks481]

ouch!

 

[PTWannaHave]

How much is a new pump from Power-Trac or otherwise...?

 

[5dphilip]

Didnt ask. I was in shock.

 

[marrt]

Wow. You're lucky to have the exact model number of the pump. You might want to call B&P on Monday (they're in Ashland VA I think) and enquire about sourcing a new one. Wouldn't hurt to know the cost. Although, it may take quite a while to get one.

 

[MossRoad]

I'm surprised they left that tag on there. That information is worth gold to many owners.

 

[marrt]

This is the same pump the 425 uses, in a smaller displacement. In the 1430, the displacement is 28 cc. The 425 uses the 21 cc version (M4PV21-21). I suspect the other numbers are the same as well since they refer to the mounting format, SAE fittings and such.

If I were betting, I'd bet this isn't the original pump on the tractor. It's probably the original model, just not the original pump.

 

[MossRoad]

If I were betting, I'd bet this isn't the original pump on the tractor. It's probably the original model, just not the original pump.

Yeah, I'd have to agree with that as well.

 

[marrt]

5dphilip,

What did you decide? Did you try to find a replacement pump?

 

[5dphilip]

After i finished sulking, i called terry. He confirmed i had the correct pump. I called B&P and they gave me a dealer in missouri (closest to me). The missouri shop seems to think they can rebuild it for 200-300. They also sent me a parts diagram to see if i wanted to do it myself. I wanted to finish some things before i put the tractor down. So I'm trying to stretch it until September. Regardless everyone feels that if you lose power when the machine gets warm and your engine doesn't bogg down, it is the pump.

 

[5dphilip]

Does anyone have experience rebuilding Bondioli and Pavesi pumps? I cannot find any "how to" videos or literature. The dealer in Missouri sent me a parts breakdown and told me if I felt comfortable doing it, I could rebuild it myself and they'd send me the parts. The dealer said one special tool is needed to keep "something" in place.

 

[marrt]

B&P pumps are VERY rare in the US. I doubt you'll find anything. Also, if rebuilding yourself, you can't allow ANY contamination or you're asking for future problems.

You can buy the pump brand new for about 20% more than the rebuild cost at PT. However, it's a four month wait because it has to come from Italy. With PT, you get a very fast turn around. All depends on your priorities and price sensitivities.