Nova Tractor vs Betstco Flail
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Torvy
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Betstco model is Chinese. Nova model is European. That was enough for me.
I did get an email reply from the Nova guy on a question. To be fair, I didn't email the Betstco so I cannot tell how well they respond.
I did get an email reply from the Nova guy on a question. To be fair, I didn't email the Betstco so I cannot tell how well they respond.
JCoastie
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Unless something has changed, Nova models are made in China to European spec then imported, so unless something has changed, both are made in china.
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100% correct and Betstco provides NO service, just replacement parts.
Torvy
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Nova's are German made with Italian parts.
JCoastie
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maybe "Nova" is, but "Nova Tractor" is not
Torvy
Super Member
Nova tractor sells these...screen shot from their website. The oem is on the watermark for the drawings. It is a German OEM. They use Italian parts.
Torvy
Super Member
Here is the info from the OEM in Germany...
Torvy
Super Member
Nova tractor is technically in Houston, but he is just an importer. Betstco is Chinese. Nova Tractor is not.
JCoastie
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Since I was in contact with Jack @ NovaTractor a few years ago when I was looking for a flail, I just email him again. Here is his reply
Like I said .... China
Jack has always been responsive to questions, and customer service seems to be there, but regardless ..... China.
Like I said .... China
Jack has always been responsive to questions, and customer service seems to be there, but regardless ..... China.
Nova Tractor gets their equipment from the same place as Bowell. They're made in China. Just go into their YouTube pages. Also, this site shows their supplier is an HK.
Nova Tractor Corporation | See Full Importer History | ImportGenius
Nova Tractor Corporation | See Full Importer History | ImportGenius
Torvy
Super Member
The guts are Italian. It is pretty clear in their website. So the German engineers are using Italian parts and Chinese labor? These are not Chinese designs or Chinese parts. To me, it is no different than most US brands that say made in USA, but are assembled elsewhere.
JCoastie
Platinum Member
you are confusing Made in USA with Designed in USA
Nova Flail is designed in Germany, and Made in China (nothing wrong with that as long as you know it)
www.ftc.gov
Nova Flail is designed in Germany, and Made in China (nothing wrong with that as long as you know it)
Made in USA
Torvy
Super Member
So, using that standard there is no such thing as a made in USA car or tractor.you are confusing Made in USA with Designed in USA
Nova Flail is designed in Germany, and Made in China (nothing wrong with that as long as you know it)
Made in USA
If the guts of the device is made in Italy, I'm better with that. My point all along is that Betstco and Nova are not the same that way.
I don't like buying Chinese stuff, but it is hard to avoid unless you have deep pockets. My new UTV is Chinese made, but assembled in Texas. The only more domestic version was more than 2X the price. I don't mind paying a little more, but it is too big a difference. For flail mowers, the US just isn't the leader.
Racenut
Gold Member
I have a Novatractor Flail. MFZ-155. We call it the park maker. The 3 pound hammers look a bit like metal bear claws and they wreck stuff 
I don't mow lawn, I mow weeds and brush, sticks, pine cones. It turns rough overgrown areas into mulched up useable areas like magic. The main unit is built in China, but it uses Comer transmission and SKF bearings, so the main moving parts are quality.
The hammers. This is why I picked Novatractor over anything else.
I don't mow lawn, I mow weeds and brush, sticks, pine cones. It turns rough overgrown areas into mulched up useable areas like magic. The main unit is built in China, but it uses Comer transmission and SKF bearings, so the main moving parts are quality.The hammers. This is why I picked Novatractor over anything else.
I think you're missing the point. This is designed in Germany but made on China from components made from various places. That doesn't make it made in Germany. Designed in Germany? Yes. But it was made in China. You can say the transmission was made or assembled in Italy, assuming the transmission is actually made or assembled in Italy. But that suddenly doesn't make this an Italian made piece of equipment.
Torvy
Super Member
Not at all. Assembled in China is no more 'made in China' than assembled in USA is 'made in USA'. What I don't want is a knock of Chinese copy of a western design that has inferior materials And inferior design. This is the actual western design made by the western company in China using western transmission and bearings. People call a Tundra a Japanese truck, but it is made here in Texas and uses more parts from the US than other 'domestic' brands. It is still considered 'Japanese'. Using that same logic, the Bowell (Nova) is a German flail. Where it is assembled is much less important to me. Would I rather it never involved China? Sure. For 1/3 the price of some others...I'll take it.
JCoastie
Platinum Member
hopeless, I guess facts really don't matter anymore lol
TractorTYMe
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I have a Betsco ditch bank flail mower FHM-AGL165, and parts been REALLY easy to access vs a flail mower from palletforks.com. They won't even get you consumer parts, if you're willing to service it yourself (Which I have to anyway in the field if stuf breaks, and you KNOW it will) So not really a problem for me.
Torvy
Super Member
They must not, for y'all. When JD makes tractors in Mexico or China are they Mexican and Chinese tractors or American tractors assembled overseas? The exact same thing applies here. A German company uses assembly plants in China with Italian mechanisms. They aren't Chinese anymore than JD is Chinese.
When my TYM was assembled in the US it didn't magically become a US tractor. It's a Korean tractor assembled in the US.
