New user and new machine

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Shippersteve

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Kioti CX2510 w/KB2465 and KL2510C
Hi guys,
First post, I have done a lot of reading but I have not come across what might be a learning curve issue or a setup issue. I’m hoping for setup issue lol.
I have just received a brand new CX2510 HST with a 3rd function installed and a KB2465 Back Hoe and a KL2510C loader, beautiful machine.

Back Hoe Problem: I cannot pull boom and arm at the same time. It’s one or the other. I can just imagine how much wear I will be putting on the controls operating like this. I do not think this is proper?

Prior to purchasing the machine I had the opportunity to run a used Hoe at the yard. I experienced the same thing.

Do I have to relearn how to run a Hoe? I can’t imagine running a different machine after this.
 
   / New user and new machine #2  
Welcome to TBN...enjoy.
Maybe youtube has info.
 
   / New user and new machine #3  
Welcome to TBN. Most likely there is not a problem with your backhoe. Compact tractors typically have lower flow and open center systems. That will limit the availability of multiple functions at the same time. With a little time you will get use to it and you may be able to feather the valves and get some dual action.
 
   / New user and new machine #4  
Yes, what K5lwq said.... it takes practice. You cannot fully pull (or even halfway) the controls. Feathering the valves will allow combination movements. I had previously used BH's, most of them used and abused and "loose". When I got my new one, it was like learning all over! I was literally throwing dirt out of the bucket sideways and banging the stops. It took probably 20 hours of operation until I really got used to it. Now movements are very fluid and smooth.

You'll get the hang of it. Just start off slow and practice, practice, practice!
 
   / New user and new machine #5  
I'd run a Bobcat excavator once that I swear was like this. I just couldn't get that thing to operate smoothly. Mind you, this is a dedicated digger with higher flows. Takeuchis took little effort to operate smoothly.

More weight, greater demand on lower flowing systems means having to, essentially, take it one step at a time. You can sense this very thing with the loader: but if you go really slow you can make it operate multidimensionally, concurrently- likely the same with a backhoe (I've never operated one on a tractor).
 
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Thanks for the replies, much appreciated. I have been watching You Tube Videos and have witnessed combined boom and stick movements. It has to be me lol.
I also read in the manual that the Boom has a float mode. It also reads “the two levers provide four simultaneous operations”.

I’ll be playing tomorrow :)
Thanks again
 
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I'm at 4 hours now and I must say I'm impressed. No problem performing 2 and 3 functions at the same time. Super happy with the swing strength. I run a Gradall 660E, although I'm pushing smaller piles sideways with the Kioti, it rocks :)
 
   / New user and new machine #8  
good for you
 
   / New user and new machine #9  
It is really amazing as to how much a little practice makes a difference! Keep at it!
David from jax
 

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