New rules for ethanol in gasoline

goeduck · Mar 6, 2023

oosik said:
Well - I guess I won't be driving the Taco Wagon back to Nebraska to visit relatives. Highlighted section under fuel in Owners Manual - "Use no fuel with greater than 10% alcohol". I wonder what folks with other than E-85 vehicles, that live in those states, are expected to do.

You know - it time for "us" to put a halt to all this government mandated crap. There must be a very good reason ( political ) that this has not been mandated in California.

I was laughing yesterday at this window sticker and my wife asked what was so funny. Had it not been for your explanation of "oosik" some time ago, I would not have been able to explain.

MossRoad · Mar 6, 2023

California said:
We don't grow corn.

Grapeahol!

Username Taken · Mar 6, 2023

I just read about sargassum piling up on Florida Beaches later on in the year. It stinks. A lot. Too bad it isn't about now as 'welcome' to the Spring Breakers that gum up everything down here. So much for wishful thinking.

The 'scientists' (like we have any left after Falsi got done with us) say we're gonna get millions of tons of it headed our way so I thought to myself, "Self, why don't these 'scientists' turn it into ethanol so we can power 5030's chainsaw?"

And, whaddya know? Somebody beat me to it. Folks, ladies and gentlemen, kids of all ages.... There is no energy shortage on this Planet. An IQ shortage? Yes. And we haven't even started on Clathrates yet.

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turbo36 · Mar 6, 2023

Username Taken said:
I just read about sargassum piling up on Florida Beaches later on in the year. It stinks. A lot. Too bad it isn't about now as 'welcome' to the Spring Breakers that gum up everything down here. So much for wishful thinking.

The 'scientists' (like we have any left after Falsi got done with us) say we're gonna get millions of tons of it headed our way so I thought to myself, "Self, why don't these 'scientists' turn it into ethanol so we can power 5030's chainsaw?"

And, whaddya know? Somebody beat me to it. Folks, ladies and gentlemen, kids of all ages.... There is no energy shortage on this Planet. An IQ shortage? Yes. And we haven't even started on Clathrates yet.

Bioethanol production from the macroalgae Sargassum spp.

Macroalgae, an abundant and carbon-neutral renewable resource, with several species rich in carbohydrates are suitable for bioethanol production. This…

www.sciencedirect.com

Well, I do agree with you on the IQ shortage. Just not sure where to point the finger.

5030 · Mar 6, 2023

Username Taken said:
OW, 100lbs of ethanol-processed feed takes the place of 120lbs of corn. Not sure about all that.

Not really. DDG can be fed as a supplement not a base feed. Not an issue here anymore. Cattle were sold 2 years ago and the pastureland is now in alfalfa hay.

Kyle_in_Tex · Mar 6, 2023

The base corn costs higher, and the price of beef correlates that.

Oaktree · Mar 9, 2023

turbo36 said:
Well, I do agree with you on the IQ shortage. Just not sure where to point the finger.

Don't know if it's an IQ shortage or just common sense that's in short supply.

Gale Hawkins · Mar 9, 2023

2manyrocks said:
Why regulate small engines when you can just kill them with ethanol gas?

That was a funny early morning read.

Ethanol is becoming less of a concern as we move to battery powered drills, chainsaws, vehicles, leaf blower, etc as price parity occurs.

Not having as big of a jerk due to arthritis has lessen my needs for power tools fuel.

turbo36 · Mar 9, 2023

Oaktree said:
Don't know if it's an IQ shortage or just common sense that's in short supply.

What is common sense? What you refer to as "common sense" is really "common knowledge". All things are learned. For example; If you didn't know how electricity worked, would you know not to touch a wire? Most people say it's common sense not to touch that wire, however, if it's the first time you've ever seen it it would just look like another object to you.
The world is about choices, if someone makes a different choice than you it's not always that they have a lack of common sense. It may be that they have more learning than you.

cqaigy2 · Mar 10, 2023

turbo36 said:
What is common sense? What you refer to as "common sense" is really "common knowledge". All things are learned. For example; If you didn't know how electricity worked, would you know not to touch a wire? Most people say it's common sense not to touch that wire, however, if it's the first time you've ever seen it it would just look like another object to you.
The world is about choices, if someone makes a different choice than you it's not always that they have a lack of common sense. It may be that they have more learning than you.

Don't know if it's common sense or common knowledge, but i find i know alot about stuff i don't know much about, and as i learn more about it, i know less about the subject.

Oaktree · Mar 10, 2023

Gale Hawkins said:
Not having as big of a jerk due to arthritis has lessen my needs for power tools fuel.

Only arthritis I have is in knees and hands so it doesn't really affect using a rope starter, but yeah pull starting a balky small engine gets old after a while. Battery ones a lot quieter too.
I do wish that manufacturers could/would standardize on batteries so they're interchangeable between brands (and make new, supposedly improved ones backwards compatible with older tools).

California · Mar 10, 2023

cqaigy2 said:
Don't know if it's common sense or common knowledge, but i find i know alot about stuff i don't know much about, and as i learn more about it, i know less about the subject.

I saw this referenced last night.

Let's see how much those who are arguing for or against EV's, Ethanol, Biofuels, future energy sources, really know about scientific theories and the scientific method!

Quiz: How much do you know about science?

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MTGreen · Mar 10, 2023

TractorTYMe said:
The cornlobby is too strong.

No offense to the corn growers around here, but the reason corn ethanol and high fructose corn syrup are economical in the United States and not elsewhere is because corn is federally subsidized

Gale Hawkins · Mar 10, 2023

Oaktree said:
Only arthritis I have is in knees and hands so it doesn't really affect using a rope starter, but yeah pull starting a balky small engine gets old after a while. Battery ones a lot quieter too.
I do wish that manufacturers could/would standardize on batteries so they're interchangeable between brands (and make new, supposedly improved ones backwards compatible with older tools).

We do have a mix of batteries but I standardized on the cobalt 80 volt and the Cobalt 24 volt for the most part.

turbo36 · Mar 10, 2023

cqaigy2 said:
Don't know if it's common sense or common knowledge, but i find i know alot about stuff i don't know much about, and as i learn more about it, i know less about the subject.

Yep I always say “the more I learn about some thing the more I learn I don’t know anything about some thing”. When someone says they’re an expert, I head for the exits.

turbo36 · Mar 10, 2023

California said:
I saw this referenced last night.

Let's see how much those who are arguing for or against EV's, Ethanol, Biofuels, future energy sources, really know about scientific theories and the scientific method!

Quiz: How much do you know about science?

Test your knowledge of science facts and applications of scientific principles by taking our 11-question quiz, then compare your answers to the average American and across demographic groups.

www.pewresearch.org

Had to think about a couple of these because of the way they were worded. The most correct answer for deforestation would be an increase in carbon dioxide. The best answer available was erosion.

MossRoad · Mar 10, 2023

California said:
I saw this referenced last night.

Let's see how much those who are arguing for or against EV's, Ethanol, Biofuels, future energy sources, really know about scientific theories and the scientific method!

Quiz: How much do you know about science?

Test your knowledge of science facts and applications of scientific principles by taking our 11-question quiz, then compare your answers to the average American and across demographic groups.

www.pewresearch.org