New owner questions

normde2001 · May 31, 2006

"But (unlike my Massey) these anchor the arms to the *outside* rather than to the *inside*. I guess the idea is that if you get them adjusted just right then the opposite chain prevents the hitch from swinging too far."

That's the way they work, and quite well, I might add. The left side chain adjusts the right side clearance, and verse-vica.

normde2001 · May 31, 2006

"But (unlike my Massey) these anchor the arms to the *outside* rather than to the *inside*. I guess the idea is that if you get them adjusted just right then the opposite chain prevents the hitch from swinging too far."

That's the way they work, and quite well, I might add. The left side chain adjusts the right side clearance, and verse-vica.

SailorBob · May 31, 2006

I was actually referring to the pins on the implement that go into the swivel balls on the lower lift arms. Turn them so that they are pointing to the inside (toward each other) instead of the outside. That way the sway chains are actually pulling the implement toward the lower link arms. I hope this makes sense. It works very well. I wish I had a photo of the setup.

SailorBob · May 31, 2006

I was actually referring to the pins on the implement that go into the swivel balls on the lower lift arms. Turn them so that they are pointing to the inside (toward each other) instead of the outside. That way the sway chains are actually pulling the implement toward the lower link arms. I hope this makes sense. It works very well. I wish I had a photo of the setup.

Eddie · May 31, 2006

I did that on my finish mower. Doesn't swing near as much!!!

Eddie · May 31, 2006

I did that on my finish mower. Doesn't swing near as much!!!

HGM · May 31, 2006

( I was actually referring to the pins on the implement that go into the swivel balls on the lower lift arms. Turn them so that they are pointing to the inside (toward each other) instead of the outside. That way the sway chains are actually pulling the implement toward the lower link arms. I hope this makes sense. It works very well. I wish I had a photo of the setup. )

Kinda like this???

HGM · May 31, 2006

( I was actually referring to the pins on the implement that go into the swivel balls on the lower lift arms. Turn them so that they are pointing to the inside (toward each other) instead of the outside. That way the sway chains are actually pulling the implement toward the lower link arms. I hope this makes sense. It works very well. I wish I had a photo of the setup. )

Kinda like this???

ghmerrill · Jun 1, 2006

I swapped the rear wheels last night and that in itself looks like it will eliminate any problems with the hitch arms rubbing on the tires. I'll probably reverse the pins on the mower as well.

ghmerrill · Jun 1, 2006

I swapped the rear wheels last night and that in itself looks like it will eliminate any problems with the hitch arms rubbing on the tires. I'll probably reverse the pins on the mower as well.

greatrandini · Jun 1, 2006

Sailorbob has the answer. I had to reverse the pins on my 6ft tiller.

greatrandini · Jun 1, 2006

Sailorbob has the answer. I had to reverse the pins on my 6ft tiller.

SailorBob · Jun 1, 2006

SailorBob · Jun 1, 2006

pruntyc · Jun 1, 2006

When I had mine, I didn't reverse the pins. I did use the rear hole on the arms though, except on the dirt scoop, then I had to use the front holes and reversed the pins on it, to keep it from rubbing. The reason I used the front holes with the dirt scoop, was it wouldn't go low enough to work right in the rear holes. And the other things worked better in the rear holes, to lift them higher.

pruntyc · Jun 1, 2006

When I had mine, I didn't reverse the pins. I did use the rear hole on the arms though, except on the dirt scoop, then I had to use the front holes and reversed the pins on it, to keep it from rubbing. The reason I used the front holes with the dirt scoop, was it wouldn't go low enough to work right in the rear holes. And the other things worked better in the rear holes, to lift them higher.

California · Jun 1, 2006

( Yeah, it's got sway chains with turnbuckles. But ... these anchor the arms to the *outside*.... I guess the idea is that if you get them adjusted just right then the opposite chain prevents the hitch from swinging too far. But as a matter of physics and geometry, this seems a bit goofy. )

I think the outer chain handles cornering stress better when you have enough clearance to set it up that way.

Consider what happens if you turn hard without lifting the disk or rototiller: The chain on the outside of the turn is attached very near the tire that is doing all the pulling on the outside of the turn. (the attachment point is on the wheel bearing housing). There is a direct pull from tire to tiller as you go around the corner.

But if the cornering pull is applied through a center-attached chain, there will be compound stresses near the tractor's centerline along with more leverage. It works, but I don't consider it ideal.

California · Jun 1, 2006

( Yeah, it's got sway chains with turnbuckles. But ... these anchor the arms to the *outside*.... I guess the idea is that if you get them adjusted just right then the opposite chain prevents the hitch from swinging too far. But as a matter of physics and geometry, this seems a bit goofy. )

I think the outer chain handles cornering stress better when you have enough clearance to set it up that way.

Consider what happens if you turn hard without lifting the disk or rototiller: The chain on the outside of the turn is attached very near the tire that is doing all the pulling on the outside of the turn. (the attachment point is on the wheel bearing housing). There is a direct pull from tire to tiller as you go around the corner.

But if the cornering pull is applied through a center-attached chain, there will be compound stresses near the tractor's centerline along with more leverage. It works, but I don't consider it ideal.

pruntyc · Jun 1, 2006

I no longer have my Yanmar, as I traded it in on a 4110 John Deere, I guess about 3 months ago or so. And the Deere has the same sway chain hook up as the Yanmar had. No difference at all, and it works for them, and it worked for me, on the Yanmar. I think you are doing something wrong, for it not to work. John Deere would have them change it on the ones that Yanmar makes for them, if it was a problem.

pruntyc · Jun 1, 2006

I no longer have my Yanmar, as I traded it in on a 4110 John Deere, I guess about 3 months ago or so. And the Deere has the same sway chain hook up as the Yanmar had. No difference at all, and it works for them, and it worked for me, on the Yanmar. I think you are doing something wrong, for it not to work. John Deere would have them change it on the ones that Yanmar makes for them, if it was a problem.