New Guy New GC1715

[irvingj]

Ben, I use Stanadyne in both my PD-engined TDI and my tractor. (VW recommended) No, these engines don't have a carburetor, just a mechanically-controlled diesel injection pump, like an old Peugeot 504D, for example (yep, had one a them, too!).

I've found that my 2310 DEFINITELY likes those glow plugs when it gets cold; I've also installed the pricey (but it fits like a glove & works very well) M-F block heater for added help in the winter.

 

[not2old]

I've got a 2010 GC2610 which is similar. During the summer months it still needs the glow plugs to start. Up to about this time of year, it will start without using the block heater but not for much longer. During freezing weather, it might not start with fifteen minutes of block heater, but always with thirty minutes. If I have it on for an hour, it will start without the glow plugs. I find this a lot less hassle than dragging out the jump start stuff and a lot easier on the equipment.

 

[1715Ben]

The tech who went over my tractor did say the Isekis do not like to start cold. I'll add the block heater to the list of upgrades. It's currently in an attached garage that doesn't get too cold in the winter (well insulated) and is heated with a wood stove when I'm working in it.

Thanks to all for the tips! Can't wait to get out and get more work done!

 

[atsah]

The tech who went over my tractor did say the Isekis do not like to start cold. I'll add the block heater to the list of upgrades. It's currently in an attached garage that doesn't get too cold in the winter (well insulated) and is heated with a wood stove when I'm working in it.

Thanks to all for the tips! Can't wait to get out and get more work done!

The tech is right.. They don't start like a DI Yanmar engine.. My Deere started instantly, my Massey takes more glow plug, a block heater and some cranking to get it running when it's cold.

 

[GC1710]

Wood splitter???.... 3PH????.... How did you do hydraulics.... A brochure for the 1700 series state there is a "power beyond" accessory but neither corporate or local dealer can seem to find/supply any information... When I do GOOGLE search with part number I get a John Deere setup that does not relate to the MF...

I suppose you are running it off back hoe hydraulics?

Dale

You can just use the lines that are there for the hoe, or use a longer line and tie into loader spool. My splitter came with its own spool, just needed to buy quick disconnects.

You can use any spool (think I bought mine for $180) and hook it into power beyond, either with your back hoe lines or if you don’t have those tapping into front loader. I use a two spool unit to support top and tilt for grader box and my “snow plow” which is an old back blade I’ve reworked to push snow backwards and use horse mat on the edge to keep concrete happy.search my posts I have it all written up.

 

[WranglerX]

The 1705 and 1715 do not have hoe's or hydraulics plumbed out for power beyond (hoe)... Only 1710 and 1720 have hoe and power beyond hydraulics for hoe....

This is why I question if its a 1715 and has power beyond, but it appears you have 1710...

Dale

 

[GC1710]

The 1705 and 1715 do not have hoe's or hydraulics plumbed out for power beyond (hoe)... Only 1710 and 1720 have hoe and power beyond hydraulics for hoe....

This is why I question if its a 1715 and has power beyond, but it appears you have 1710...

Dale

Can you not tap into the loader spool? I am assuming they don’t use a different front spool for hoe vs non-hoe GC? I was actually going to do this to be able to run my splitter up front. Haven’t gotten to it.

 

[WranglerX]

Can you not tap into the loader spool? I am assuming they don’t use a different front spool for hoe vs non-hoe GC? I was actually going to do this to be able to run my splitter up front. Haven’t gotten to it.

I was sort of thinking of using splitter at rear (3PH) with spool on splitter (or any device) .... Was in mental state (thinking) as my friends DJ, which has a pair of connections out to rear with "U" shaped hose that loops back hydraulic fluid when no rear device in use, but removed when hooked to something like splinter with its own spool valve....

Note rear "power beyond" connection!...

Dale

 

[atsah]

A GC doesn't have the flow to run a splitter. Will it move the wedge in and out, yes, but very slowly. GC size SCUT'S are just not made for it. I used one on my TC45DA and it was barely enough to get anything done, I have since bought a Honda powered splitter, now I split a cord an hour..

 

[WranglerX]

A GC doesn't have the flow to run a splitter. Will it move the wedge in and out, yes, but very slowly. GC size SCUT'S are just not made for it. I used one on my TC45DA and it was barely enough to get anything done, I have since bought a Honda powered splitter, now I split a cord an hour..

You kind of miss the point or I probably was not clear, I'm asking how to get power beyond, it not about what implement/accessory I will be using off back of tractor... I only used log splitter as example of capabilities for power beyond.... Maybe I want to control a scraper or hydraulic top link or some thing I dream up like hydraulic winch....What I uses it for does not matter, its all about how do I get it...

Dale

 

[atsah]

Sorry I thought you were talking about running a splitter.

 

[WranglerX]

Sorry I thought you were talking about running a splitter.

Maybe I was not clear as I grabbed a couple of pic of GOOGLE Image and they happened to be splitters....

Its all about whats in circle in this pic... My 1715 does not have this, but I imagine the 1710 and 1720 do have it to run back hoe... Why can I not find anything on how hydraulics power the hoe and adapt it for my needs on the 1715...I have service manual and its very clear about FEL hydraulics work but does not seem to recognize anything about hoe connections/operations...



I know its not a 1715 but its an example of what I desire...

Dale

 

[atsah]

I haven’t seen anything on it either and I have the service manual as well.

 

[atsah]

I do see in the hydraulic section on agco parts the part numbers are different for the valves between the 1715 and the 1720 but I would have to look at it on my laptop, this phone is not good for looking at diagrams and schematics.

 

[GC1710]

A GC doesn't have the flow to run a splitter. Will it move the wedge in and out, yes, but very slowly. GC size SCUT'S are just not made for it. I used one on my TC45DA and it was barely enough to get anything done, I have since bought a Honda powered splitter, now I split a cord an hour..

I run a splitter and by no means is it fast but I only split about 2 cords a year max. I’ve posted several videos of it for other users.

 

[GC1710]

You kind of miss the point or I probably was not clear, I'm asking how to get power beyond, it not about what implement/accessory I will be using off back of tractor... I only used log splitter as example of capabilities for power beyond.... Maybe I want to control a scraper or hydraulic top link or some thing I dream up like hydraulic winch....What I uses it for does not matter, its all about how do I get it...

Dale

The 1710/20 just plumb off of the loader spool for the rear “power beyond” and also an additional “dump” for hoe but you don’t need that for splitter, but possibly some other attachment. All you need is hose and fittings and you could easily have this. I can try and take pics next wknd

 

[Gofast]

I run a splitter and by no means is it fast but I only split about 2 cords a year max. I’ve posted several videos of it for other users.

I thought yours worked pretty well.

GC171 with new DR dual action 3 point log splitter Part 2 - YouTube

https://www.tractorbynet.com/forums...6-dr-dual-action-log-splitter.html?highlight=

 

[atsah]

I run a splitter and by no means is it fast but I only split about 2 cords a year max. I’ve posted several videos of it for other users.

Looks to run pretty well to me.. I'm actually pretty surprised how well it does..

 

[bartjoebob]

I've got the same setup, mine is my dedicated mower- and it stripes the lawn. You might find the Massey mows better than the legacy XL. The loader is definitely a beast. In winter the snowblower is adequate ballast. Moving dirt you'll want something. Here's a 600lb ballast I rigged up using 1/2 a 55 gallon plastic barrel, a Cat 1 ranchex drawbar (walmart.com), some rebar and (6) 80lb bags of quickrete. Whole thing cost about $50-60. I can pick it up and set it down with a quick hitch. Only thing I wish I did was sinknsome PVC into the cement so I could carry shovels/rake.

 

[WranglerX]

I've got the same setup, mine is my dedicated mower- and it stripes the lawn. You might find the Massey mows better than the legacy XL. The loader is definitely a beast. In winter the snowblower is adequate ballast. Moving dirt you'll want something. Here's a 600lb ballast I rigged up using 1/2 a 55 gallon plastic barrel, a Cat 1 ranchex drawbar (walmart.com), some rebar and (6) 80lb bags of quickrete. Whole thing cost about $50-60. I can pick it up and set it down with a quick hitch. Only thing I wish I did was sinknsome PVC into the cement so I could carry shovels/rake.
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Going to start my 2x2x1 ft. (4 cubic ft. possibly 600#) ballast box build today... Glad you reminded me about tool holders....

Dale