Need to drill a hole...

   / Need to drill a hole... #21  
sounds like that would speed it up.
 
   / Need to drill a hole... #22  
I've used a hole saw in steel even with a hand drill, set on low speed. Not as easy as a press, but it will work. Sounds like you are on the right track, but I would advise one thing I haven't seen mentioned here: EARMUFFS! The screeching can be horrendous.
 
   / Need to drill a hole... #23  
I have used a 1/2 inch variable speed hand drill to put holes in steel.
 
   / Need to drill a hole...
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#24  
sounds like that would speed it up.

Crap it would...I don't know what I was thinking! Making both the same would be 1 rotation per every rotation of the motor. Right now it's 1 rotation for every 2 or 3 of the motor.

Ok, then I need to change the output pulley to a larger diameter. Right now, it's small drive pulley, large middle pulley, small output pulley. If I make the output the same as the middle pulley, THAT should slow down the bit because as it is now, every turn of the large middle pulley is spinning the small output 2 or 3 times. Making those 1:1 should slow it down.

10 bucks says that for some reason I won't be able to flip the output pulley upside down.
 
   / Need to drill a hole... #25  
If using a hole saw, if you take and drill a 1/4" hole in the coupon area, right next to or in the path the saw will cut, so the saw has a place to dump the chips, use plenty of oil, and a slow speed,

my experience a "good" home drill press is not that good if the bit is much over 5/8 inch, and most will not even hardly turn any thing over 1" with out stepping, yes you may have a chatter problem but with out some thing that has a back gear your going to hard pressed to do much besides stepping the size of the hole unless one does use hole saw, If you want a exact hole size, (I find hole saw are only close, not very exact)
 
   / Need to drill a hole... #26  
Hole saw! U can even use it in a hand held drill.
 
   / Need to drill a hole... #27  
One more "me too" for the holesaw.. I have a nice Bosch set the wife bought a few years ago, but as noted they do not cut an exact size hole, there is some runout. Think of them as a rotary bandsaw, so slow speed, lube and don't crowd it. Mine have lasted a long time that way.

James K0UA
 
   / Need to drill a hole... #28  
I have cut lots of large holes (3" and larger) in in 1/2" and thicker mild steel by using a bimetal hole saw on the drill press. Slow the drill press rpm down and take your time, use cutting oil to carry the heat away and you can cut your holes.
 
   / Need to drill a hole... #29  
hole saws will work on thicker steel as many have noted, but as one above poster also pointed out, you need to find a way to remove the chips. when starting out it will be fine, but once you get to where the teeth are totally below the surface of the material (about 1/8" in) you will find it harder to make any headway because the voids between the teeth fill up quickly. if you don't want to drill a "drain" hole at the edge where the hole saw will travel you can probably get away with drilling from both sides. since you're only working with 3/8" plate you could go about 3/16" on one side and then flip over to finish. It may not be the best way, but it will work.

I just drilled some 1 1/2" to 1 3/4" holes in 1/8", 1/4", and 3/8" plate with old hole saws myself. it certainly is a little tedious, but if it's only a few holes on one occasion it won't be too bad. if it were a common thing, it would get old in a hurry. I only have drills up to 1", so past that I have to use a hole saw. The other option for me would be to bore it, but it didn't need to be that precise a hole, though I think drilling 1" and boring out to 1 1/2" might not be much slower than a hole saw.
 
   / Need to drill a hole... #30  
Bi Metal hole saws can be used easily at the slowest speeds of most drill presses. I've used hole saws for years with hand held drills while doing electrical work because most of the time we didn't have a drill press on the job. Just don't force the cutting action and use a little cutting oil or just any oil a little while cutting. 1-1/8 holesaws are readily available as they are used in the construction industry for 3/4" pipe entering electrical panels. Any homedepot or similar store will have them along with arbors that are required to use them.

I'm new to the Forum and am looking forward to learning and sharing any info pertaining to almost anything (especially spelling) Hope you can read this and hope this helps. It seems like almost everybody agrees with the hole saw.
 
   / Need to drill a hole... #31  
HiTechTed said:
Guys, I need to drill a 1 1/8" hole in 4 pieces of 3/8" thick mild steel. I don't have a plasma cutter or a torch...all I have is a good drill press.

What would you use to do this job with given my lack of equipment? I've looked around here and there are no bits that large for sale anywhere that I've seen, but would a step drill do it? I have drilled up to 3/4" holes around here but I've never had to do one this size and I was wondering what would be best to use in my situation.

Thanks!

Sounds like the hole does not need to be perfect. Here is a cost effective approach with tools most of us probably have.

Scribe a circle 1&1/4 inch in diameter.
Then center punch on the scribe line every 3/8 inch.
Use a 1/4 drill to around the circle. The 1/4 drill, if sharp, should punch through relatively quickly.
Once you drill out the circle cold chisel the 1/8 remnant between the holes.
Then with a dermal tool or file etc. finish rounding the hole.

Unless you need a 1&1/2 drill bit in the future this is more cost effective. Also, compared to drilling a 1&1/2 at the requisite low speed this may take about the same time.

My shop teacher showed me how punch a big hole this way as a project. Wondered when I might use this again.

Good luck and best wishes
RoN
 
   / Need to drill a hole... #32  
Sounds like the hole does not need to be perfect. Here is a cost effective approach with tools most of us probably have.

Scribe a circle 1&1/4 inch in diameter.
Then center punch on the scribe line every 3/8 inch.
Use a 1/4 drill to around the circle. The 1/4 drill, if sharp, should punch through relatively quickly.
Once you drill out the circle cold chisel the 1/8 remnant between the holes.
Then with a dermal tool or file etc. finish rounding the hole.

Unless you need a 1&1/2 drill bit in the future this is more cost effective. Also, compared to drilling a 1&1/2 at the requisite low speed this may take about the same time.

My shop teacher showed me how punch a big hole this way as a project. Wondered when I might use this again.

Good luck and best wishes
RoN

nice work around
 
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#33  
It doesn't have to be NASA perfect. My problem now will be getting my drill press to go below 250 rpm.

For the chips, I always just back off and vacuum them out, and clean off the bit or in this case the hole saw. I only need to do 4 holes and I'm on my own time.
 
   / Need to drill a hole... #34  
It doesn't have to be NASA perfect. My problem now will be getting my drill press to go below 250 rpm.

For the chips, I always just back off and vacuum them out, and clean off the bit or in this case the hole saw. I only need to do 4 holes and I'm on my own time.
With a hole saw I think 250 rpm would be OK, altho I sure would like the option to slow down as conditions indicate. Be sure to use care at the start because the normal saw pilot isnt usually rigid enuf to prevent an orbital wobble on entry.
larry
 
   / Need to drill a hole... #35  
For large holes when I do not have a bit, hole saws work but I prefer 60 RPM or less. This one is 1-5/8 through 3/8 thick



I think H/F sells a 5 bit set something like 1", 1-1/8", 1-1/4", 1-3/8", 1-1/2" for around 50 bucks.

Larry
 
   / Need to drill a hole... #36  
I have used the hole saw for this scenario lots of times.(with a drill press) I find it works best though to have a 1/8" weep hole drilled through the kerf itself. I usually start the cut to get it established, then can find precisely where to put the weep hole, then continue with the hole saw.
then it is non-stop cutting with no worries. I go with about 60 rpm and hand feed the pressure.
It seems to me that going faster, with no weep hole, the materiel
surface- hardens , anyway, it doesnt cut well even with cleaning it out in progress.
what I would like to point out however is to be extremely carefull of the plug when removing it from the hole saw afterwards. the lower edge of the plug has a razor sharp burr around the perimeter and it'll slice you open like a scalpel. forewarned is forarmed.
 
   / Need to drill a hole... #37  
I have used the hole saw for this scenario lots of times.(with a drill press) I find it works best though to have a 1/8" weep hole drilled through the kerf itself. I usually start the cut to get it established, then can find precisely where to put the weep hole, then continue with the hole saw.
then it is non-stop cutting with no worries. I go with about 60 rpm and hand feed the pressure.
A single 1/8" hole does it for the chips ? Nice. Introduce coolant at the hole and let it carry all the way round to exit with the chips.
larry
 
   / Need to drill a hole... #38  
yes , thats correct. I usually use just one hole drilled through the kerf. for something like a 5 inch hole, I would put another weep hole on the opposite side too. just dribble cutting fluid down the side of the hole saw while boring and if you were to look underneath the piece while cutting you will see the crud oozing out via the weep hole. non-stop cutting then, no need to back out and clean out.
 
   / Need to drill a hole... #39  
I had to drill a 2 5/8" hole through a 1/2" plate of mild steel. I used a bi-metal hole saw and 55 rpm on my lathe. Lots of oil, not too much force and backed off occasionally to clear the chips. After two holes, the blade still looked like new.

I was surprised, as I thought the bi-metal saw would self destruct.
 
   / Need to drill a hole... #40  
Amazon sells some nice hole-saw sets!

I use large Bi-Metal hole saws a lot when I need a nice clean round hole!! :)... Just have the drill-press on the lowest RPM and use plenty of cutting fluid!!!

I have some large drill bits, But they won't fit in my Drill-Doc'... And they can be a pain at times to sharpen on a bench grinder!

If I don't need a perfect hole, Then I use Oxy' & Acet'... I use a marker to mark my circle, and drill a hole through the center... Then use a center punch and go all the way around the circle... That way when I cut out the hole I can still see the mark from the center punch!

Also, When drilling large holes it's good to have some large round ''Nicholson Files''!!! :)

Bill
 

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