MY2012 5085M ordered today!

[catdozer]

Thanks guys.

As for setting the level/drop for the french drain, I used a 4ft level and measured at 3 places along each 10 feet section of pipe and made sure the bubble was touching the line on the up side. I added gravel as needed below each pipe to achieve the desired result. In all I got about 150 feet of pipe with a drop of about 2 feet from start to finish, so a little more than the 1% rule of thumb drop.

The biggest pain about installing the backhoe are the 5 large bolts that have to be torqued to 450 ft lbs to properly setup the 3pt linkage for each tractor the hoe is attached to. I've been through the process 2 times now and will need to do it a third time for the 5085M. Once customized for a particular tractor, the hookup should not be that bad going forward. I plan to make a stand for it so that I should be able to back up to it and hook up in 10 minutes or so, at least that is my hope.

Also, dealing with those heavy cat 2 implements in general (like the blade and 9ft bush hog), I'm considering the cat 2 I-match system once I validate that most of my implements will work with it. I think that will be a big time save and make me switch to the proper implement when needed instead of trying to make do with whatever it currently hooked up.

Great job on that drain it looks super!!
That backhoe does look like a pain, but eventually you will have it hooked up in 5 minutes. As for the implements I've seen worse , category 4 hitch as on one 4wd 9510R. But I think you would do great with a quick hitch. May have to modify a few but after that your golden! Bigger implements are a lot harder to hook up.

 

[pclausen]

With all the work you are getting done with older used tractors, does it make you question the new M?

Not at all! These loaners have had a lot of hard hours on then, and while they get the job done for sure, they have both been really rough around the edges, like no smooth gear shifting, leaking oil, etc. And given the asking price ($30k for the 6405 and $28k for the New Holland), I personally would much rather pay the extra for a new model where I would have full control of the service/maintenance history. The New Holland is less rough than the 6405 was, and the working A/C was great this past weekend with temps in the 80s.

I think that having had these loaners over the last few month will make me appreciate the M even more when it arrives than being tractor less would have.

 

[pclausen]

Great job on that drain it looks super!!

Thanks!

That backhoe does look like a pain, but eventually you will have it hooked up in 5 minutes.

I was able to get it off in 5 minutes tonight. I was very pleased with that time. Technique as follows:

1. Use stabilizers to raise up just enough to slip wood blocks under main frame.

2. Shut off tractor and release pressure from stabilizers so that weight of hoe rest on blocks.

3. Lift boom with engine hoist to the point that the frame no longer carries it's weight.

4. Place floor jack under boom pin and raise unit 3pt top link pin is loose and pull out. (this step is always the hardest one)

5. Lower floor jack completely and remove the 2 lower 3pt hitch pins.

6. Pull off PTO pump and drive away.

In theory, installation would be the reverse of the above, and I think I can do it in 10 minutes now since the engine hoist and floor jack are sitting there under the hoe.

As for the implements I've seen worse , category 4 hitch as on one 4wd 9510R. But I think you would do great with a quick hitch. May have to modify a few but after that your golden! Bigger implements are a lot harder to hook up.

Wow, category 4 and a 9510R. That's some serious iron! If the telescoping arms had been working on my loaners, things would not have been too bad. My 4700 didn't have those to start with, but with Cat 1 implements, I could usually yank on them real hard to make things like up, with the Cat 2 stuff, not so much!

 

[AKfish]

My 4700 didn't have those to start with, but with Cat 1 implements, I could usually yank on them real hard to make things like up, with the Cat 2 stuff, not so much!

That's the reason I went with the Cat II JD quickhitch - and the fender remote on the EH 3pt. The bigger iron and doing most of the hooking/unhooking myself; breaking 2x4's and sleeping on a heating pad at night..

I figured the hitch was a worthwhile investment!

AKfish

 

[ddivinia]

Not at all! These loaners have had a lot of hard hours on then, and while they get the job done for sure, they have both been really rough around the edges, like no smooth gear shifting, leaking oil, etc. And given the asking price ($30k for the 6405 and $28k for the New Holland), I personally would much rather pay the extra for a new model where I would have full control of the service/maintenance history. The New Holland is less rough than the 6405 was, and the working A/C was great this past weekend with temps in the 80s.

I think that having had these loaners over the last few month will make me appreciate the M even more when it arrives than being tractor less would have.

I agree 100% Just checking

D.

 

[pclausen]

The cabbed 2012's are starting to shop up at dealers.

Here's a 5100M with the same 420/85R34 / 13.6R24 Michelins that I'm getting. I really like how they redid the headlights. Can't wait!

 

[catdozer]

The cabbed 2012's are starting to shop up at dealers.

Here's a 5100M with the same 420/85R34 / 13.6R24 Michelins that I'm getting. I really like how they redid the headlights. Can't wait!

Looks like they used the new R series headlights. Those new lights are really good. Pretty bright!! Hopefully yours comes in early!

 

[Edward. S]

The cabbed 2012's are starting to shop up at dealers.

Here's a 5100M with the same 420/85R34 / 13.6R24 Michelins that I'm getting. I really like how they redid the headlights. Can't wait!

Looks good. I still like my 6430 Premium better... I think.. :confused2:. My friends 6430 Premium w/ 673 SL and 7230 Standard got delivered yesterday. I had to go to his place and play with his toys for a few minutes. Walked him over how to use the IVT. He got a 91" bucket on his 6430, and he got a C250 but his looks way better. It has 2 roller adjusters so it can be an angle. I kind of didn't check his drop rate. And I dropped it on the concrete.. And he was right infront of me :ashamed: I had a little bit fun driving the 7230, Playing around his yard boosting the turbo and driving it going 25MPH on the road. Well, I drove both on the road. The 6430 Premium wasn't very strong going up the hill. Imagine the skid steer smack down, but the moguls dont drop So it would be a mogul, 100 feet, another mogul, then another 100', mogul, 100' , and another mogul. It wasnt the best ride, not very good weight distribution, rear tires too narrow I'd say. Prefer 20.8s instead of 18.4 or at least the mighty 600 metrics.

 

[Zebrafive]

It looks like it's driving into a stiff wind!

 

[AKfish]

The grill and the hood do have that "swept back" look! I gotta say, though; I like the way the tractor looks.

I really like the corner post exhaust! Sure wished it was available on the '11's. The real complaint I have with the side hood mount is when I put the loader back on the tractor. I've scratched it twice now when the loader frame has drug across it. Gotta look out that I don't bend the darn thing!

AKfish

 

[pclausen]

Yesterday my dealer told me that my 5085M is in manufacturing, which means it should be delivered to my dealer next week! :thumbsup:

I stopped by today to pick up my Frontier grapple and loader suspension package. Here is it on the truck.

Getting ready to unload.

Ready to lower.

On the car dolleys.

Closeup of one of the cylinders. I like how they put grease on the rods from the factory.

I also picked up the loader suspension kit for my H260. I plan to install all the "dealer installed options" myself.

Can't wait for next week!

 

[pclausen]

So I was reading through the installation manual for the loader suspension system, and I guess I'll need to take it back to the dealer to get it charged with nitrogen. I'll let them hook up the hydraulic hose that goes to the lift cylinder as no pressure should be applied until the tank is pressurized. I'll install everything else ahead of time.

I need to decide on what load versus charge pressure I want to use. My options are:

500-1500 lbs 1015 psi
1500-2600 lbs 1160 psi
2600-4000 lbs 1305 psi

I'm getting the 73" Global Heavy Duty bucket. I figure I'll use the suspension mostly when transporting full bucket loads of dirt and gravel. I wonder how much that weights? I'm thinking I should go middle of the road and have them charge to 1160 psi?

Does that sound like a good plan?

 

[Zebrafive]

What is the capacity of your loader? I would base the charge on that. You could also determine the capacity of your bucket then get a density weight for dirt and go from there.

One question, is there a size or volume marking on the accummulator of the loader suspension system? Possiblely a manufacture's name, model number?

 

[pclausen]

The H260 loader has a rated lift capacity of 4228 lbs 31.5" ahead of the pivot point. The grapple weigh in at 972 lbs, so moving large rocks and trees around, I think you're right that I should go with the 2600 - 4000 lbs setting.

I just want to make sure the suspension is not too stiff when carrying a bucket full of dirt or gravel. I'll see if I can dig up the weight of the bucket and its capacity.

I'll take a close look at the accumulator when I get back down to the shop this evening and let you know.

 

[pclausen]

The 73" Global heavy duty bucket weigh in at 283 lbs and has a capacity of 10.7 Cu. ft.

I looked up the density of various materials, and here is what a bucket full of each ends up being, including the bucket itself:

Moist Earth (90 lbs per cu. ft) 1226 lbs
Clay (100 lbs per cu. ft) 1353 lbs
Gravel 1/4" - 2" (105 per cu. ft) 1407 lbs

I'll talk to the dealer about it to make sure the suspension won't be too stiff with a 2600 - 4000 lbs setting when carrying ~ 1300 lbs loads.

And just for grins since I was looking at the density chart:

Lead (708 lbs per cu. ft) 7859 lbs
Gold (1204 lbs per cu. ft) 13166 lbs :confused2:
Iridium (1383 lbs per cu. ft) 15081 lbs :confused2:

 

[pclausen]

One question, is there a size or volume marking on the accummulator of the loader suspension system? Possiblely a manufacture's name, model number?

Here you go:

So its made by Hydac of Germany and the capacity looks to be 85 cu. in.

 

[Martian]

That's a grapple! Want to trade:laughing: Bet you'll be sleeping well this weekend knowing what's coming next week!

 

[pclausen]

I picked up a cheap $99 radio today from Crutchfield (they are about 30 minutes from my house), and I had read here that JDs take the VW harness adapter. Hopefully they gave me the right one. Here's a pic of the radio and harness connector. Harness adapter is free with any car stereo purchase, so I was out the door for $104 and change. Way better deal than the $425 JD is asking for a plain AM/FM radio, let alone the $900 for the AM/FM/CD one!

 

[vtsnowedin]

The 73" Global heavy duty bucket weigh in at 283 lbs and has a capacity of 10.7 Cu. ft.

I looked up the density of various materials, and here is what a bucket full of each ends up being, including the bucket itself:

Moist Earth (90 lbs per cu. ft) 1226 lbs
Clay (100 lbs per cu. ft) 1353 lbs
Gravel 1/4" - 2" (105 per cu. ft) 1407 lbs

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Good chart there on the weight of lose materials in a bucket. Matches my experience etc. Two more to add to your list if you are doing build it yourself projects. Wet concrete from a redimix truck 148-152 lbs per cubic foot and hot mix asphalt 135 loose.

 

[Edward. S]

I picked up a cheap $99 radio today from Crutchfield (they are about 30 minutes from my house), and I had read here that JDs take the VW harness adapter. Hopefully they gave me the right one. Here's a pic of the radio and harness connector. Harness adapter is free with any car stereo purchase, so I was out the door for $104 and change. Way better deal than the $425 JD is asking for a plain AM/FM radio, let alone the $900 for the AM/FM/CD one!

Can you buy me one for the 5420?