My Home built Loader

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Well I have been slowly chipping away at this project, and it's starting to look a little more like a loader rather than just a collection of bits of steel.

I have a few more pics attached so you can see the progress.

Hopefully tomorrow I'll be able to mate the bucket up with the loader arms for the first time for a test fit. I've gone with what I believe is a JD style of quick hitch

I definitely underestimated the time required for this project. I seem to have spent an eternity turning bushes on the lathe, 40 so far with a couple still to go.

Cheers

Rohan
 

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   / My Home built Loader #22  
That is a fantastic project and you are bringing it to completion in a very nice manner. Really great work. Your 4-in-1 is fantastic. I for one look forward to you finishing your project.

You are have it warm now while we freeze up here in the northern parts. fairdinkum job you got going there, Mate.

Mike
 
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Rohan-- just curious: most of my fabrication has been with wood, but now that I have a tractor I've been thinking about "making stuff" for it --though by no means as involved as your project, which looks great, BTW.

How are you cutting your pieces out? Plasma cutter, cutting torch? And how do you get those very nice looking edges afterward? I suspect I may have to be taking a trip to the tool store sometime... :rolleyes:

I know what I'd do if I were making a model airplane, but balsa is quite a bit easier to work with than steel! A whole new world for me.
 
   / My Home built Loader #24  
Looking good. Interesting to read about all the time spent making bushings. Bushings and pins were pretty inexpensive at the store I bought my cylinders. I would by a 5" bushing and cut it into 1" or what ever thinkness needed on the bandsaw. You can see an uncut bushing and a pin on the table in this shot.
 

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Looking good. Interesting to read about all the time spent making bushings. Bushings and pins were pretty inexpensive at the store I bought my cylinders. I would by a 5" bushing and cut it into 1" or what ever thinkness needed on the bandsaw. You can see an uncut bushing and a pin on the table in this shot.

I never really thought about buying it. When I started I had some 1 3/4 bar left over from my backhoe project, so I just started using that.

If I was to do it again, I would look to buy it pre made.

Cheers

Rohan
 
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That is a fantastic project and you are bringing it to completion in a very nice manner. Really great work. Your 4-in-1 is fantastic. I for one look forward to you finishing your project.

You are have it warm now while we freeze up here in the northern parts. fairdinkum job you got going there, Mate.

Mike

Thanks Mike, Positive comments keep me motivated :)

The weather this week has been a bit cool and overcase for this time of year, so I'm making the most of it, as my shed turns into an oven in the summer.

Because it doesn't get so cold in winter there is no insulation in the shed, which on the flip side would help keep the heat out in the summer.

Cheers

Rohan
 
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Rohan-- just curious: most of my fabrication has been with wood, but now that I have a tractor I've been thinking about "making stuff" for it --though by no means as involved as your project, which looks great, BTW.

How are you cutting your pieces out? Plasma cutter, cutting torch? And how do you get those very nice looking edges afterward? I suspect I may have to be taking a trip to the tool store sometime... :rolleyes:

I know what I'd do if I were making a model airplane, but balsa is quite a bit easier to work with than steel! A whole new world for me.

I would encourage you to begin small.

Get some scrap steel and practice welding it together. If you don't yet have a welder, I would try and book into a simple home welding course somewhere and learn a bit before you decide what to buy.

One thing is for sure, you first welds will be useless, so having someone to teach you and show you where you are going wrong will most likely make the difference between you persisting or getting frustrated and giving up.

I cut out the flat stock using a Oxy/Accet torch to begin with, but then switched to Oxy/LPG (Propane) because the LPG is far cheaper.

With the parts that are made the same I cut out all the pieces individually, then stack them together and tack weld them into one thick piece. Then I use the angle grinder to clean up the edges. Once I'm happy I drill any pilot holes then split them apart again. Lastly I run the edges on my bench grinder belt sander attachment (like this one Multitool belt and disc grinder attachment at Van Sant Enterprises, Inc.)

Cheers

Rohan
 
   / My Home built Loader #28  
OK-- same as I do with my planes-- tack glue a bunch of ribs --or whatever-- together, then sand all at the same time, separate after.

Thanks, rhamer. Certainly I'll begin small! I had in mind a 3PH carry-all basket, that sort of thing. Nothing requiring critical welds for sure. I was just very impressed with your gusset (?) pieces.

I have an oxy-acetylene set, and the long-term loan of a Lincoln SP-125 Plus flux-core wire feed welder.... and I did enroll in a welding class earlier this fall/winter. Not an expert by any stretch, but I now feel quite comfortable with oxy-acetlyene, with or without filler (at least up to 3/16" thick), and can stick pieces together with the wire feed. An angle grinder I don't have-- yet. :D
 
   / My Home built Loader #29  
Work well done building your FEL.
I am also currently building my own for a BX. (not that far advanced) One question I got is how do you keep your bushings straight and aligned after you weld them. I am assuming they will want to warp with the heat from the welding and the pins will be a tight fit.
thanx
 
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Work well done building your FEL.
I am also currently building my own for a BX. (not that far advanced) One question I got is how do you keep your bushings straight and aligned after you weld them. I am assuming they will want to warp with the heat from the welding and the pins will be a tight fit.
thanx

Tack weld them first in 4 places, then fully weld them.

Do all that with the pin in place.

One thing is for sure, no matter how hard you try, when you heat metal, it will move, so you have to know it is going to happen and work with the problem.

Cheers

Rohan
 
   / My Home built Loader #31  
A few people here have been very helpful with answering various questions about my FEL project, so I thought I would post a few pictures of the work so far.

Normally I like to complete the project, then show it to the world, that way if it is a complete disaster, I can toss it in the corner with all the other disasters and know one has to know :)

However I thought I would be a bit different this time and post as I go. Of course it could still be a disaster, but I hope not.

When deciding to build my own loader, the main reason was because I wanted to. I also thought it would be cheaper, but that is yet to be proven.

I built the loader arms out of 75mm x 125mm x 6mm tube. I cut a wedge out of each side and welded them back up to taper them (because all the pro built ones have tapered arms so I'd better do it also). They are currently still in 4 pieces, as I needed to build the bucket to work out the spacing and angles and so fourth.

The bucket is primarily made out of 6mm plate, but will be appropriately reinforced as needed. It has been quite a challenge to work out the geometry of the 4 in 1 as I've only got pictures from the internet of various other buckets to get ideas from. At first I thought they would all be much the same, but every manufacturer does it differently. So I just made it up. It looks so far like it will work ok, but time will tell. I had previously built a 900mm wide bucket and a quick hitch for my backhoe, which was a walk in the park compared to this one, even though it was curved.

Anyway, here are some pictures of the work so far.... Be gentle, it's my first time :)

Cheers

Rohan

I admire your project. It appears to be going well.
I thought I would share my experience with a similar project. More than 20 years ago I built my front end loader and installed it on a Bolens garden tractor. I needed a pooper - scooper badly. It worked so well I began to use for more than I originally intended. The one problem was going back and forth piling material. It was a big stress on the gear box, thus I blew the ring gear twice before I gave up on that model Bolens. I found a good deal on a newer Bolens with hydrostatic transmission and adapted the loader to it. This combination has worked very well for so many years that I had to restore the entire piece of equipment this year.
There were some questions about alignment. My solution, to be sure of proper alignment was to leave this step almost last and I welded pipe for bushings while a shaft was installed. This kept everything in perfect alignment.
I will try to attach a photo of it after restoration.
 

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Ok I matched the bucket up against the lift arms today to see how it all looks.

Some more photos with the top attachment points tacked in place.

Cheers

Rohan
 

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   / My Home built Loader #33  
rhamer-- what are those "extra" pistons on the bucket for? Some sort of grasping mechanism? Really nice work!
 
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rhamer-- what are those "extra" pistons on the bucket for? Some sort of grasping mechanism? Really nice work!

Those are the cylinders that actuate the 4-in1 bucket. The bucket looks like a dozer blade with a swinging bottom and sides added. Look at this picture and this one, which he posted earlier and maybe it will explain things well. It really is quite a project and is being well executed.

Yes the 4-in-1 can be used to "grasp" things, like small stumps, rocks, brush, logs, etc.

Mike
 
   / My Home built Loader #35  
Really nice project, thanks for taking the time to post along the way.

As I compare your welds to mine, I can see that you are clearly doing something wrong as your welds do not exhibit the spatter, globs and burn throughs that mine do.

With time, I'm sure you'll figure out how to get it right.

:)

Thanks again for posting.

Joel
 
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Thanks again for the encouragement chaps.

JoelD, most of this is still just tacked together, so the long booring welding is still to come :(

It is actually reasonably easy to weld this sort of stuff, because the metal is thick. You would have to work pretty hard to blow a hole through it.

I knocked it all down into it's individual parts last night, so I can start welding it up properly, now that I know how all the major bits fit together.

Cheers

Rohan
 
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Too bad you don't have a web cam in your shop so we could all watch in real time. Looks like a great project.
 
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Too bad you don't have a web cam in your shop so we could all watch in real time. Looks like a great project.

I could take the one out of the bedroom and............. oops, too much information :p

With the help of my dad today, we laid the 2 lift arms out and tacked them to a temporary frame to square them up in relation to each other. I also then tacked in the torque bar accross the front.

Unfortunately my holidays are over today, so it will be back to weekends only for a while :(

Anyway I have slogged away this far, so I'm keen to get it finished and actually use it.

Cheers

Rohan
 
   / My Home built Loader #39  
Rohan,
Could you take a couple more pictrues of your bucket quick hitch? Looks like a great method.
Thanks,
John
 
   / My Home built Loader #40  
Don't you just hate it when a project gets well under way, and the guy has to go back to work!!! Maybe we need to start a collection so he can stay home and finish the loader???
Looking GREAT!!!
David from jax
 

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