Millermatic 200 Elite

[Jw5875]

Pro's / Con's?

I am considering a purchase for one. I am a serious hobby, repair person that would like a machine like this with the multi purpose capability.

JW5875

 

[Arc weld]

People that have them seem to like them but the biggest con is the price. Personally I think they are about $500 too much for what they are. They have a relatively low duty cycle and the multi-process is kind of a gimmick. Yes they will TIG, Stick and MIG weld but you have to realize they won't TIG aluminum and to add a foot pedal etc. costs even more money. Any DC stick welder can be set up for TIG welding steel/stainless for not a lot of money. For the $2000 they cost, I think you could buy 2 separate machines for about the same money.

 

[Mark @ Everlast]

Arc Weld is right. Miller came to the game late. Thermal Arc offers more for less. Everlast does as well. I've tested the Millermatic 200 and it was nice, but a bit more complex than it needed to be I think for what most people are looking to get from it. The compact design was ingenious but at the same time, I did not like the plastic feel, though I know it is tough. A foot pedal for TIG is a reasonable expectation for a machine this price, and by the time you add all the things up to get one, you've got a fancy MIG with the capability to do what you want, but no way of doing it because of all the "add ons" you must purchase to do so. With that said, there are several people here that have bought one. I am sure they will chime in and can give you a better, overall feel of likes/dislikes...hopefully.

 

[Jw5875]

Arc weld, Mark,

Thank You both for the reply / info. This how we learn together on this great web site. Looking forward for more info from others to help in my decision.

JW5875

 

[Cat_Driver]

You get what you pay for, it's spendy buy WORTH IT for me. It's lunch box size is AMAZING. It welds aluminum like butter. I bought one after I was jerked around by local welders. I bought the machine, the spool gun, helmet, gloves, supplies AND I STILL spent less than I was quoted for the job. I did the job, customer loved it, I got paid, ended up with free equipment plus some cash out of the deal.
Mind you, I never welded a thing before in my life and I tackled 1/8" aluminum without a hitch. This thing runs off 110 or 220, so you can take it anywhere and plug it in and go. Like I said It's lunch box size makes it PERFECT to haul around.
For what I need this thing is perfect. Do a you tube search some guys are using this in their welding business as a field unit.
Once you get it the price you paid will disappear in the ease of use.

 

[Jw5875]

Talked with Mark from Everlast. Great discussion about my needs.
Went with the Everlast Power Tig 200DX. It will be here next week. Will post a follow up!
Saved $$$$$ by not buying a multi process unit.

JW5875

 

[Big Barn]

Talked with Mark from Everlast. Great discussion about my needs. Went with the Everlast Power Tig 200DX. It will be here next week. Will post a follow up! Saved $$$$$ by not buying a multi process unit. JW5875

You'll be happy. I have one also.



Terry

 

[IslandTractor]

I have the "Millermatic" 200 (actually the name is Multimatic 200). Excellent portable dual voltage machine. Welds as well as the Millermatic Passport or 150STH. Yes, it is expensive and yes you can trust that parts and repairs will not be a problem in the future and yes it will have an excellent resale value just like other Miller products. I sold my Passport and 150STH for what I paid for them (both purchased slightly used) and that funded the Multimatic.

Try selling an Everlast on Craigslist when your needs change.

 

[Jw5875]

Island Tractor,

The Multimatic 200 is DC only in TIG. For Aluminum you have to use the spool gun, I wanted AC/DC in TIG and this unit has that feature that I can use for intricate repairs on aluminum.
My old Lincoln AC 225 and Hobart 187 have served my needs, but wanted aluminum capability. Now I will have stick DC to supplement the Lincoln, and AC for TIG. I don,t plan on
selling any of my tools, machines etc. Just hope the grand kids have learned something from me and they can use them when the passage comes.


JW5875

 

[Jw5875]

Island Tractor,

The Multimatic 200 is DC only in TIG. For Aluminum you have to use the spool gun, I wanted AC/DC in TIG and this unit has that feature that I can use for intricate repairs on aluminum.
My old Lincoln AC 225 and Hobart 187 have served my needs, but wanted aluminum capability. Now I will have stick DC to supplement the Lincoln, and AC for TIG. I don,t plan on
selling any of my tools, machines etc. Just hope the grand kids have learned something from me and they can use them when the passage comes.


JW5875

 

[Big Barn]

Try selling an Everlast on Craigslist when your needs change.

You are correct there , but IMHO the OP purchased a decent machine that even if he were to give it away at the end of the warranty period it will have only cost him $20 per month. Terry

 

[Arc weld]

Why would he be thinking of selling it when he just bought it?

 

[Mark @ Everlast]

I assume that was a resale value question? Everlast does have good resale value. Many customers that I know that choose to selll have gotten near what they paid for their unit. In some cases OVER what they paid as our unit costs have risen. 4 years ago this unit was selling just under a 1000.00 retail. Now it is selling for 1350.00. But even lets say if if they bought it for 1000.00 and sold it for 500.00 now. That's only a 500.00 hit. If you bought a 3000.00 machine from another brand, and used it for 4 years, you may see a 30% depreciation, which would be a 1000.00 hit. But that's not typically the case as our units do go for more.

I have customers frequently ask if we know of or have used units for sale. They are in demand. People post them on our forum and else where like Amazon and sell them quite quickly.

 

[Reverser]

I personally wouldn't buy a used unit of anything without first making sure it didn't have those problematic Mosfet's.

 

[roadhunter]

Why would he be thinking of selling it when he just bought it?

Some people consider resale value when making a purchase.

 

[roadhunter]

I assume that was a resale value question? Everlast does have good resale value. Many customers that I know that choose to selll have gotten near what they paid for their unit. In some cases OVER what they paid as our unit costs have risen. 4 years ago this unit was selling just under a 1000.00 retail. Now it is selling for 1350.00. But even lets say if if they bought it for 1000.00 and sold it for 500.00 now. That's only a 500.00 hit. If you bought a 3000.00 machine from another brand, and used it for 4 years, you may see a 30% depreciation, which would be a 1000.00 hit. But that's not typically the case as our units do go for more.

I have customers frequently ask if we know of or have used units for sale. They are in demand. People post them on our forum and else where like Amazon and sell them quite quickly.

Mark,

I've been watching e-bay for used everlast welders and have seen a few sell. A couple were close to new and brought about 80% of retail. Another sold for about 50% of retail.

Here is the next one I am watching. Sounds like they dont' even know what model it is but it's new???
Everlast Powertig 250 EX Welder | eBay

 

[Mark @ Everlast]

Well this is a counterfeit product. Serial numbers aren't even our series of serial numbers. We've never produced a product like this, although it looks like DC 3 in 1 welder of some sort. Can't tell if its mosfet or igbt technology. It does not have the digital display which all our units used since we started. The paint looks like it is a paint over. There's no side markings either or rear/side panel specifications, which all our units have had.

My guess is that someone ordered a cheap unit off ebay from China or from LOTOS or somewhere thinking it was the "same as Everlast" and when they got it it wasn't or it was broken. So, they ordered an Everlast 250EX from Amazon, took the old welder, repainted it, (also the lower part on the front looks sprayed over to cover the original name/info) and sent it back in the original 250EX box with the 250EX sticker from a new unit that we use on the upper part of the plastic panel(which sometimes comes loose) and restuck it on the repainted unit. I imagine they got their real welder for a couple hundred bucks all said and done...Whatever, though, it was crooked, and this guy is a salvage guy stuck with it. It does have a stick holder from our new 250EX units...but no TIG torch or plasma torch, which were probably junk to begin with and he kept the Everlast TIG torch and sent the new style stick torch along because he was only going to TIG weld...and it is sitting on top of a weber grill box...but the clam shell box appears to be ours...not sure.

 

[Mark @ Everlast]

Also notice that the right DINSE connector housing is flipped around backwards with the outside turned in, which tells me something is wrong. DINSE connectors have been robbed off the ends of the cables too which tells me he/she also wanted to keep them.

 

[roadhunter]

Sounds like one to stay away from. Thanks for the info.

 

[roadhunter]

Another one up today.
Everlast Powertig 185 Micro AC DC TIG Welder 110 220 Volt Inverter | eBay

Mark,

On your website the specifications for the 185 tig machine have a typo. It says 1,200v..

•35% Duty Cycle at 125 Amps/ 1200V