Manual

[marrt]

Agreed. Hope all is well. I miss him.

 

[marrt]

Agreed. Hope all is well. I miss him.

 

[Barryh]

I agree a living manual would be of great use to everyone. I have a ton of server space so it would not cost anyone anything.

I already have two separate Web Sites for my business, including a forum setup of my own. I have a few sub domains I use for the fun of it, and several more available that could support a whole other Web Site with room to spare.

As Kent was nice enough to offer his time, expertise, and writing skills. Seems it would be appropriate for him to lead the charge.

I believe he, along with a hand full of main players have been on this forum since day one. My only concerns would be making sure this site is not affected in any way.

This is a great place for PT'ers to gather over a cup of java, and discuss there beloved machines. With that in mind, I would think a simple online manual would be all that is needed. Just my two cents.

It would have to be something everyone here would be interested in supporting.

If so, I would be happy to delicate space for a manual, that could be printed off in parts or the whole thing for use in the future.

Are there any other takers, and or thoughts on this ???

 

[Barryh]

I agree a living manual would be of great use to everyone. I have a ton of server space so it would not cost anyone anything.

I already have two separate Web Sites for my business, including a forum setup of my own. I have a few sub domains I use for the fun of it, and several more available that could support a whole other Web Site with room to spare.

As Kent was nice enough to offer his time, expertise, and writing skills. Seems it would be appropriate for him to lead the charge.

I believe he, along with a hand full of main players have been on this forum since day one. My only concerns would be making sure this site is not affected in any way.

This is a great place for PT'ers to gather over a cup of java, and discuss there beloved machines. With that in mind, I would think a simple online manual would be all that is needed. Just my two cents.

It would have to be something everyone here would be interested in supporting.

If so, I would be happy to delicate space for a manual, that could be printed off in parts or the whole thing for use in the future.

Are there any other takers, and or thoughts on this ???

 

[Barryh]

As a side note, helpful Links, and sources for tools such as the main nut wrench, tires, oil filter wrenches, and such could be also included, and updated for various models.

 

[Barryh]

As a side note, helpful Links, and sources for tools such as the main nut wrench, tires, oil filter wrenches, and such could be also included, and updated for various models.

 

[KentT]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I agree a living manual would be of great use to everyone. I have a ton of server space so it would not cost anyone anything.

I already have two separate Web Sites for my business, including a forum setup of my own. I have a few sub domains I use for the fun of it, and several more available that could support a whole other Web Site with room to spare.

As Kent was nice enough to offer his time, expertise, and writing skills. Seems it would be appropriate for him to lead the charge.

I believe he, along with a hand full of main players have been on this forum since day one. My only concerns would be making sure this site is not affected in any way.

This is a great place for PT'ers to gather over a cup of java, and discuss there beloved machines. With that in mind, I would think a simple online manual would be all that is needed. Just my two cents.

It would have to be something everyone here would be interested in supporting.

If so, I would be happy to delicate space for a manual, that could be printed off in parts or the whole thing for use in the future.

Are there any other takers, and or thoughts on this ???
)</font>

Barry, I just wanted to offer some clarification.

(1) I also have access to plenty of server space, domains, etc. so that's not the real issue. What I could also bring to the table -- in addition to the experience with Simplicity and my other site -- is the software to make it work... perhaps not a 100% "custom-designed, custom-built" solution, but one that works. Forums, some collaboration and workspace to develop and index articles, photo galleries, file sharing, etc., all in an integrated package with user registration, passwords, etc.

(2) I was offering to do this at no cost to other PT owners, just like this forum doesn't cost anything. I would set it up so that advertising (Google and perhaps others) would eventually help cover the ongoing costs. Note that disk space on a server is cheap but bandwidth on a server is not, especially when you start storing and serving out photos, diagrams, PDFs, etc. (Been there, done that too -- I've been hit with bandwidth charges higher than the other hosting fees, combined...)

(3) In return, all I'd ask is that it be on my site -- i.e. a "dot com" entity that I'd own and operate, similar to how Mohammed runs this place (with a lot of help... /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif).

Thought this additional clarification might be valuable... /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

 

[KentT]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I agree a living manual would be of great use to everyone. I have a ton of server space so it would not cost anyone anything.

I already have two separate Web Sites for my business, including a forum setup of my own. I have a few sub domains I use for the fun of it, and several more available that could support a whole other Web Site with room to spare.

As Kent was nice enough to offer his time, expertise, and writing skills. Seems it would be appropriate for him to lead the charge.

I believe he, along with a hand full of main players have been on this forum since day one. My only concerns would be making sure this site is not affected in any way.

This is a great place for PT'ers to gather over a cup of java, and discuss there beloved machines. With that in mind, I would think a simple online manual would be all that is needed. Just my two cents.

It would have to be something everyone here would be interested in supporting.

If so, I would be happy to delicate space for a manual, that could be printed off in parts or the whole thing for use in the future.

Are there any other takers, and or thoughts on this ???
)</font>

Barry, I just wanted to offer some clarification.

(1) I also have access to plenty of server space, domains, etc. so that's not the real issue. What I could also bring to the table -- in addition to the experience with Simplicity and my other site -- is the software to make it work... perhaps not a 100% "custom-designed, custom-built" solution, but one that works. Forums, some collaboration and workspace to develop and index articles, photo galleries, file sharing, etc., all in an integrated package with user registration, passwords, etc.

(2) I was offering to do this at no cost to other PT owners, just like this forum doesn't cost anything. I would set it up so that advertising (Google and perhaps others) would eventually help cover the ongoing costs. Note that disk space on a server is cheap but bandwidth on a server is not, especially when you start storing and serving out photos, diagrams, PDFs, etc. (Been there, done that too -- I've been hit with bandwidth charges higher than the other hosting fees, combined...)

(3) In return, all I'd ask is that it be on my site -- i.e. a "dot com" entity that I'd own and operate, similar to how Mohammed runs this place (with a lot of help... /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif).

Thought this additional clarification might be valuable... /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

 

[bbabineau]

I am a fairly new user with a 1430 and would love to have access to such a manual on line. I would also be willing to contribute although I am too new to be of great value. I know most items would be directed to the 425 but I could help with some research or commentary on how the 1430 may differ. Sounds like a wonderful idea as I agree that PT's manual lacks detail and there is absolutely nothing relaing to attachments.

 

[bbabineau]

I am a fairly new user with a 1430 and would love to have access to such a manual on line. I would also be willing to contribute although I am too new to be of great value. I know most items would be directed to the 425 but I could help with some research or commentary on how the 1430 may differ. Sounds like a wonderful idea as I agree that PT's manual lacks detail and there is absolutely nothing relaing to attachments.

 

[toolz_not_toyz]

Just randomly replying... I agree an online manual would be useful. I'm think of just starting to maintain a FAQ.

 

[toolz_not_toyz]

Just randomly replying... I agree an online manual would be useful. I'm think of just starting to maintain a FAQ.

 

[KentT]

Well, I just talked to Kristie Asbury at Power Trac, and they are not at all supportive of this idea. It seems too many people have gotten "bad advice" from discussion forums... She did say that they are currently in the process of doing a major upgrade to their web site, which will include both more service/support information in addition to more sales information.

When I raised the question of FAQs for example, she requested that if we accumulate FAQs that we send them to her for inclusion on their site which has a few FAQs about both Sales and Service.

I asked specifically about sharing parts or service manuals with each other and she said that they would not like that at all -- because it really takes the serial number of a machine to know exactly what components it has... They hope to soon have a site where an owner can type in the serial number and search for the appropriate manuls, but there's no firm commitment on when that capability may be available.

I'm not sure I want to go there -- if the company won't cooperate -- i.e. if I'd be liable for copyright infringement for putting any of their information on a site, then I'm not going there... /forums/images/graemlins/ooo.gif /forums/images/graemlins/ooo.gif /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

 

[KentT]

Well, I just talked to Kristie Asbury at Power Trac, and they are not at all supportive of this idea. It seems too many people have gotten "bad advice" from discussion forums... She did say that they are currently in the process of doing a major upgrade to their web site, which will include both more service/support information in addition to more sales information.

When I raised the question of FAQs for example, she requested that if we accumulate FAQs that we send them to her for inclusion on their site which has a few FAQs about both Sales and Service.

I asked specifically about sharing parts or service manuals with each other and she said that they would not like that at all -- because it really takes the serial number of a machine to know exactly what components it has... They hope to soon have a site where an owner can type in the serial number and search for the appropriate manuls, but there's no firm commitment on when that capability may be available.

I'm not sure I want to go there -- if the company won't cooperate -- i.e. if I'd be liable for copyright infringement for putting any of their information on a site, then I'm not going there... /forums/images/graemlins/ooo.gif /forums/images/graemlins/ooo.gif /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

 

[Barryh]

Thanks for the clarification Kent,

Sure, your space, my space, your software, it's all good, I'm onboard with it. After mumbling to myself, and listening to other frustrated owners asking why there is not more detailed information in their factory manual. I think anything that will help sort out common, and not so common problems is a good thing.

I would hope this includes all models, not just the 400 series of course. I am willing to help in anyway I can, just let me know. Hopefully some of the more experienced PT'ers will comment for or against, along with their reasons why. To do this we would need to pool all of our resources. Doing a search on a topic is fine, but it sure would be nice, to have quick reference on information when needed, all in one place.

 

[Barryh]

Thanks for the clarification Kent,

Sure, your space, my space, your software, it's all good, I'm onboard with it. After mumbling to myself, and listening to other frustrated owners asking why there is not more detailed information in their factory manual. I think anything that will help sort out common, and not so common problems is a good thing.

I would hope this includes all models, not just the 400 series of course. I am willing to help in anyway I can, just let me know. Hopefully some of the more experienced PT'ers will comment for or against, along with their reasons why. To do this we would need to pool all of our resources. Doing a search on a topic is fine, but it sure would be nice, to have quick reference on information when needed, all in one place.

 

[Barryh]

Well nice try Kent, guess that kills that idea. For now, back to the old search for a topic. One thing I do know, without this forum I would have never bought my PT with no dealer support. While I am on my soap box here, I for one want to give Jack a big hand for all of his support. Ok.. I'm done now, as you were.

 

[Barryh]

Well nice try Kent, guess that kills that idea. For now, back to the old search for a topic. One thing I do know, without this forum I would have never bought my PT with no dealer support. While I am on my soap box here, I for one want to give Jack a big hand for all of his support. Ok.. I'm done now, as you were.

 

[MossRoad]

Their reply does not surprise me. Several years ago someone from Power Trac asked if they could link to my web page and point people over there to look at it. I told them sure, but I post the good and the bad about the machine. My likes and dislikes, etc... never heard from them again. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Sharing copyrighted material person to person is one thing... but posting it on the internet for the whole world to see could be a sticky subject. I could see where they would want the control over it. But really, do they have some top secret owner's manual that is so secret that they don't share even with the customers? /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif Oh, well... nature of the beast.

 

[MossRoad]

Their reply does not surprise me. Several years ago someone from Power Trac asked if they could link to my web page and point people over there to look at it. I told them sure, but I post the good and the bad about the machine. My likes and dislikes, etc... never heard from them again. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Sharing copyrighted material person to person is one thing... but posting it on the internet for the whole world to see could be a sticky subject. I could see where they would want the control over it. But really, do they have some top secret owner's manual that is so secret that they don't share even with the customers? /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif Oh, well... nature of the beast.