M7060 HDC12 New Owner, or recent shopper info needed

   / M7060 HDC12 New Owner, or recent shopper info needed #21  
Hi Team, I'm a Kubota fan, no doubt, I own an L series and love it. I recently decided to add an M7060HDC 12 to the fleet. The machine suits my needs perfectly, fit and finish are what we expect from Kubota. The issue is that I have demoed 3 NEW machines, as well as an 8560, and it appears they all have the same issue. When applying the brakes initially, and during operation the pedal will bottom out on the floor board. It feels just like when you were a kid, in your first new, old, chevy, you remember, the one that needed the master cylinder replaced. You can pump them right back up, but the initial activation of the pedal, sporadically, drops to the floor. One dealer said they needed to be bled, did so but the problem persisted, 2 other dealers are actively seeking answers. The machines have all been sitting idle all winter, that is apparent, the first one was dead as a doornail the first time I went to see it. The issue has been documented, and I am awaiting a definitive answer about what could be causing this issue, I am ready to pull the trigger but am leery of an impending problem. I was wondering if anyone could add some insight. I feed round bales on a feed row that requires operating on hills near my barn, the issue was unnerving when backing down a slope with a bale in the hugger and having the brake pedal drop to the floor. I was able to pump them back up, but it's just not right. What's going on?? For the record, I test drove a New Holland T4.75 today, (I know Blasphemy), and have to say it's a solid #2, the lower output hydraulic pump is apparent in loader operation, but not a deal breaker! I don't need a sunroof, but it is cool, as is the kid seat.
I've ran into this on 2 machines, we never really found a problem or solution. We pulled apart the brakes measured everything and put them back together and they seemed to work properly afterwards. The only thing I can figure is it was an air pocket that wouldn't bleed out.

Brian
 
   / M7060 HDC12 New Owner, or recent shopper info needed
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#22  
I've ran into this on 2 machines, we never really found a problem or solution. We pulled apart the brakes measured everything and put them back together and they seemed to work properly afterwards. The only thing I can figure is it was an air pocket that wouldn't bleed out.

Brian

Thanks for your insight. I am unsure how to proceed. What do think I can expect, what would you do??
 
   / M7060 HDC12 New Owner, or recent shopper info needed #23  
I might suggest it to your dealer and see what they think and possibly have them suggest it to their field service rep so they can get reimbursed on the warranty side.
 
   / M7060 HDC12 New Owner, or recent shopper info needed
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#24  
I might suggest it to your dealer and see what they think and possibly have them suggest it to their field service rep so they can get reimbursed on the warranty side.

The dealer I'm working with now has bled them, and is working with Kubota now. It is still His machine, he knows I will take it upon resolution of the brake issue and I believe he will do his best to solve the problem, I just fear it's not going to be a clear "fix", and I'll be taking a chance on a known issue in a brand new machine.
 
   / M7060 HDC12 New Owner, or recent shopper info needed #25  
Our field service rep is who suggested it to us after we had exhausted all other options and he had mentioned that he had run into it before and they did the same thing we ended up doing, just taking it apart and putting it back together.
 
   / M7060 HDC12 New Owner, or recent shopper info needed
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#26  
Our field service rep is who suggested it to us after we had exhausted all other options and he had mentioned that he had run into it before and they did the same thing we ended up doing, just taking it apart and putting it back together.

How much of a "Nightmare Scenario" is the procedure you are suggesting? Would the machine be 100% afterwards?

Thanks again!
Patrick
 
   / M7060 HDC12 New Owner, or recent shopper info needed #27  
It would absolutely be 100% afterwards. It's not a terrible job but it does take some time.
 
   / M7060 HDC12 New Owner, or recent shopper info needed #28  
How much of a "Nightmare Scenario" is the procedure you are suggesting? Would the machine be 100% afterwards?

Thanks again!
Patrick

Any scenario that does not involve it being perfect when you drive it off the lot is a nightmare scenario. Kubota has to get to the bottom of this and make it right. It might be well to make it absolutely clear to Kubota USA that this circumstance is go-no-go for a sale, that there are a bunch of machines with the problem and that it has become public knowledge. It should have "burning ship priority" within the company. Surely the dealers are doing that quietly.
 
   / M7060 HDC12 New Owner, or recent shopper info needed
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#29  
It would absolutely be 100% afterwards. It's not a terrible job but it does take some time.

Thanks very much for your insight Brian. I feel better about 7060's now!
 
   / M7060 HDC12 New Owner, or recent shopper info needed
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#30  
Any scenario that does not involve it being perfect when you drive it off the lot is a nightmare scenario. Kubota has to get to the bottom of this and make it right. It might be well to make it absolutely clear to Kubota USA that this circumstance is go-no-go for a sale, that there are a bunch of machines with the problem and that it has become public knowledge. It should have "burning ship priority" within the company. Surely the dealers are doing that quietly.

You are 100% correct! I hope it is receiving the right attention, behind the scenes.
 

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