TSO
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how much does the SSQA components weigh?
LS vs. Kubota questions
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TSO
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Exactly... The lower rating of the new loaders is either taking into account the heavier added tier 4 components, or is subtracting the added weight of the standard SSQA components. "At the pin" still means at the pin.No.......
Deezl Smoke
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If this has been asked, I apologize. But are these loader specs founded when attached to a tractor, if so what tractor size? Or are they published based on engineering data using pin placement and mathematics?
According to TractorData the bare, no-FEL L60's are only about 100lbs heavier than the L40's they replaced - unlikely to make enough difference to be revising the FEL specs. One would indeed expect the SSQA to make the bucket, etc., a little heavier (100lbs?). But still, that additional 6" SSQA gap has to make a noticeable difference in both curl and lift capacity, particularly with the smaller Kubota models the OP was comparing.
TSO
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doesn't change the "At pivot pin" measurements. I can have a quick attach plate that sticks out 100" (exaggeration) ... But it doesn't change the pivot pin measurement. Now, I agree that the "At bucket edge" measurement will be different IF a SSQA plate is added, and the same depth bucket is used for the measurement. But, the 'Bota specs specify "At pivot pin" for the numbers I'm referring to... So, it makes sense that the weight of the SSQA components is what is decreasing the loader lift on the L60 vs L40 series machines.
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Congrats! The LS really seem like a good value with lots of features. If I had an LS dealer local, they would have been my choice too.
And we love pics, please post some up when you get it!
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Seems to be a lot of trigger pulling lately. Picking up a new PTR myself this weekend.
myself this weekend.
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What is a PTR??Seems to be a lot of trigger pulling lately. Picking up a new PTR
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Congrats on the new tractor. She's a Beaut!!!!!
Anxious to hear your opinions about the differences. Looks like you've got a smaller chassis tractor? Should create some interesting comparisons.
Anxious to hear your opinions about the differences. Looks like you've got a smaller chassis tractor? Should create some interesting comparisons.
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Like your current Avatar Murph!!!!
Thanks Richard. I need to find the pic with the Irish flag in the background.
Fallon
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I have a L3200, same frame & loader as the L3901, just less HP & emissions.
I can fill a 250 gallon IBC tote over 1/3 less than half full of water before the loader stops lifting it. 1/2 full = 1,000lbs. Add a couple hundred lbs for forks & 50-100 for the tote plus the fact that IBC tote sticks out 3' & the rated capacity is about right.
I've helped a neighbor move some big rectangular bales. No clue how heavy, but they felt about as heavy as my IBC tote I think. Those bales maxed out my tractor & moving them was a little sketchy. I kept them low & went really slow. I'll help him in the future with his remaining bales, but neither of us wants to deal with large bales again. He got rid of the goats & is selling the remaining hay, but would have gone to small bales.
At any rate, while a L3xx0 or L3xx1 tractor will barely do it, it is not an appropriate tractor if you are planning on moving big bales. It's just not that safe or enough tractor. A 4000 series would be the minimum I'd recommend, probably even a 5000 series.
As others noted the L 00 & 01s are economy models. The Grands (40 & 60) tractors have more weight & capacity than equivalent economy models, not to mention other bells & whistles.
Weight defines how much a tractor can do. HP just defines how fast it can do it. Compare weight of a machine before you compare HP
I can fill a 250 gallon IBC tote over 1/3 less than half full of water before the loader stops lifting it. 1/2 full = 1,000lbs. Add a couple hundred lbs for forks & 50-100 for the tote plus the fact that IBC tote sticks out 3' & the rated capacity is about right.
I've helped a neighbor move some big rectangular bales. No clue how heavy, but they felt about as heavy as my IBC tote I think. Those bales maxed out my tractor & moving them was a little sketchy. I kept them low & went really slow. I'll help him in the future with his remaining bales, but neither of us wants to deal with large bales again. He got rid of the goats & is selling the remaining hay, but would have gone to small bales.
At any rate, while a L3xx0 or L3xx1 tractor will barely do it, it is not an appropriate tractor if you are planning on moving big bales. It's just not that safe or enough tractor. A 4000 series would be the minimum I'd recommend, probably even a 5000 series.
As others noted the L 00 & 01s are economy models. The Grands (40 & 60) tractors have more weight & capacity than equivalent economy models, not to mention other bells & whistles.
Weight defines how much a tractor can do. HP just defines how fast it can do it. Compare weight of a machine before you compare HP
grm61
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Caddyshack thing going on at home? :laughing:
