Loading dead tractor onto trailer

[Tx Jim]

I will be onto the brakes but also will have the clutch in, tranny in gear for extra insurance.

Coasting down hill with clutch depressed & manual trans in gear has be known to destroy good clutch by slinging clutch lining off of plate

 

[Tomtint]

I pushed my sisters B7510 up onto a trailer with my L3700. I just raised my bucket so I was pushing on the ROPS bar on her machine. Very easy.

 

[dannoGT]

Winch or come-a-long attached to draw bar and pull it backwards up the ramps. FEL will just slide up the ramps. That is how I did it last month when my tractor died in the field. Let the service department figure out how to get it off the trailer.

I did exactly the same ! Dropped off the trailer with tractor at shop! They fixed it while it was on trailer! Called me to come back and get it, when it was done. I don't they they even took it off the trailer!

Danno

 

[ruffdog]

The gravity way???? Be sure to block the wheels!

 

[Avenger]

Ouch! :shocked:

 

[keljan11]

My father had an old Caterpillar 22 track machine, (with a heavy blade), that hadn't been started for better than 20 years. When he passed away, we gave it away to a guy who was going to restore it.
He used 2 jack alls and a couple of long chains to load it up onto his trailer. I wasn't there, but my brother said he was amazed at the strength of 2 jack alls. Wish I'd been there to watch

 

[Jstpssng]

Coasting down hill with clutch depressed & manual trans in gear has be known to destroy good clutch by slinging clutch lining off of plate

That could be the case but it's still preferable to barreling down the hill out of control. With square gears and no power to the engine once I start down over that hill I'm committed. We'll access before getting to that point, I have no reason at this point not to trust the brakes.

ball valve on hose of loader works great to hold them up i have them on our 706 so i dont have to take off the loader and can switch hoses for the rear remote controls, just pop out the loader quick connects and pop in the rear lines - shazam, u can do the same by lifing up the loader and then blocking the fluid flow so it doesnt allow the cylinders to go down

maybe I'm wrong, if so I will know this weekend; but if I open the spool when we raise the loader won't it hold when I release it?

 

[CobyRupert]

This may sound off the wall...but it seems like there was once a thread here on TBN that discussed being able to manually turn the PTO and engage the hydraulic pump enough to raise a 3PH...can't remember if it mentioned a loader...I tried searching but can't seem to find a reference so I could be remembering something else...

....but doesn't the hydraulic pump turn with the engine? So how do you turn pump through PTO without turning engine? I guess if engine is okay to turn it should work. There's videos on Youtube of guys starting their tractors by wrapping a strap around the attached rotary mower pto shaft and "pull starting" the engine with the family sedan.

Thinking out loud here....on a similar off-the-wall note: What would happen if you hooked another tractors hydraulics into dead tractors SCV? (..if you just happen to have a couple hydraulic lines with male connectors on each end)?
Would it pressurize dead tractor's hydraulic system if you worked the levers right?

 

[aczlan]

Thinking out loud here....on a similar off-the-wall note: What would happen if you hooked another tractors hydraulics into dead tractors SCV? (..if you just happen to have a couple hydraulic lines with male connectors on each end)?
Would it pressurize dead tractor's hydraulic system if you worked the levers right?

Just disconnect the quick connects for the loader and connect them to the other tractor. We did that with the tractor that needed to have the loader removed to get engine work done on it. It worked just fine.

Aaron Z

 

[CobyRupert]

Just disconnect the quick connects for the loader and connect them to the other tractor. We did that with the tractor that needed to have the loader removed to get engine work done on it. It worked just fine.

Aaron Z

Much simpler!

On that note, for the tractor stuck in the shed, what hand pumped, motorized, or electric version of alternate “off board” hydraulics could be adapted as the power source ?

1) Woodsplitter...
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[aczlan]

Much simpler!

On that note, for the tractor stuck in the shed, what hand pumped, or electric motor version of alternate “off board” hydraulics could be adapted as the power source ?

A come along or a chain and vehicle to pull it out, a high lift jack to lift the loader.

Aaron Z

 

[3Lfarms]

How much air pressure would it take to raise a loader with an empty bucket?

 

[RickB]

How much air pressure would it take to raise a loader with an empty bucket?

Probably a few hundred pounds. There are too many variables to answer definitively.

 

[3Ts]

Just run a chain under the bucket and attach to the tractor frame. The winching of the tractor onto the trailer will raise the loader enough for it to slide onto the trailer. This is what the JD shop did with mine, I assume they reversed the process to remove the tractor from the trailer. Actually, it was a tilt bed truck, not a trailer.

 

[sandman2234]

Just run a chain under the bucket and attach to the tractor frame. The winching of the tractor onto the trailer will raise the loader enough for it to slide onto the trailer. This is what the JD shop did with mine, I assume they reversed the process to remove the tractor from the trailer. Actually, it was a tilt bed truck, not a trailer.

That is the simple, smartest and fastest way to do it!
If you don't have a winch, but do have a long strap, jackknife the tow vehicle in relation with the trailer, and use another vehicle to pull it up on the trailer, being careful not to over stress the trailer by pulling too hard.
David from jax

 

[Jstpssng]

It didn’t work. First I ran a chain around the Ford loader arms and worked the control while my brother lifted with the Kubota. I never thought that little tractor would lift the front tires of the 3 ton Ford, but it did. He then hooked a corner of the ’Bota bucket under that of the Ford and raised it enough so that I was able to get a block of wood under it. We can now drag it out with a chain as somebody suggested, but I don稚 want to go that route until I’m sure that I know what I’m doing.

 

[Xfaxman]

It didn稚 work. First I ran a chain around the Ford loader arms and worked the control while my brother lifted with the Kubota. I never thought that little tractor would lift the front tires of the 3 ton Ford, but it did. He then hooked a corner of the 達ota bucket under that of the Ford and raised it enough so that I was able to get a block of wood under it. We can now drag it out with a chain as somebody suggested, but I don遞 want to go that route until I知 sure that I know what I知 doing.

Evidently you didn't put it in float.

I have raised my loader with a jack while the control valve was in float.

 

[RalphVa]

A lot of these suggestions re using the starter just won't work when the U joint off the back of the engine disintegrates like mine did on the 4010.

Ralph

 

[RickB]

A lot of these suggestions re using the starter just won't work when the U joint off the back of the engine disintegrates like mine did on the 4010.

Ralph

There are a lot of different suggestions here, about any will work given the correct set of conditions. Nobody, least of all me, is suggesting all will be appropriate every time. Obviously if the engine is not turning the hydraulic pump the starter will not raise the loader.

 

[Jstpssng]

Evidently you didn't put it in float.

I have raised my loader with a jack while the control valve was in float.

It’s a 50 year old tractor and doesn’t have float. It should have released when I opened the valve though, right?