Loader Vs, Big Dirt Scoop?

Nuru · Mar 19, 2002

Oh, well, I have never been so in....etc. Well John, okay yes I could have opted to get a gear version and a loader, but I wanted Hydro and a blade.
BTW, I called the guy with the 30" and the ship loader and a rear blade would be $2000 more than the front blade.

And just think the ORANGE TEAM don't slam their faithful this hard! why, why I may have to lose my mind and trade my 4100 in for a Kubota 7500! Well that is not going to happen anytime soon. LOL! /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif
BTW, I called the guy witht he 30" and the shipping brought the price up by almost $90. He recommended I go local, but they all want $325 - $375 plus tax for a 30" scoop - no way! He recommended I go local, but they all want $325 - $375 plus tax for a 30" scoop - no way!

I do have at least 4 weeks to talk about it, and I have not talked to my meighbor about that loader he apparently is not really using any longer.

So there are options and times Big John!

Nuru · Mar 19, 2002

jinman, sorry to hear about what happened to your Dad. Yes you now have me a little scared about that 30" scoop. If you can get enough material in it that will not trip the auto-releases that are included on the ones that I am seriously considering, but can throw the unit off balance that is scary.

Maybe i am the Donkey?

Nuru · Mar 19, 2002

Yes I would got for a 60" bucket and I got my weights already.

jyoutz · Mar 20, 2002

John, I agree with everything you say. I just wanted to point out that it would lift a 60" scoop, not that I'd want one. Myself, I bought a used 36" scoop for $150 and I use a rear 5' blade for snow plowing. I saved the extra money and then bought a 410 loader. But one big mistake I made was buying the stupid 49" bucket for the loader. I should of went for the 54" or 60" bucket. A full 49" bucket of gravel or sand is nothing for the 410 loader and I know that it would handle a 60" bucket full just fine. Even if it wouldn't lift a full bucket of a heavy material, I'd still go with a larger bucket for handling light loose material and take a smaller bite of the heavy stuff. Hindsight is 20-20.

TresCrows · Mar 20, 2002

I tried to get you for the Orange team!!!!! Finally you are making some sense trading for the 7500---yehahhh!!. Just kidding /w3tcompact/icons/shocked.gif .
Well, soon the grass will be growng, what you plan on mowing it with since you traded your lawn mower for a tractor without a MMM and I have meant to ask what is the front blade for? Yes, I am picking on you, why not?
J

Nuru · Mar 20, 2002

jyoutz, it is a 60" bucketed loader for me when/if i get a loader.

pennwalk · Mar 20, 2002

Are we talking about a rear scoop or a rear loader? I couldn't find it on the Westendorf site. I have seen a loader bucket that attaches to the three point and comes with a hydraulic toplink is that what this is? I saw one here.<A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.AffordableEquipment.com/RearLoader.htm>http://www.AffordableEquipment.com/RearLoader.htm</A>

Chris

Nuru · Mar 20, 2002

Oh, Ho, so the high (too many beers) priest of the Orange, just took a shot at one of the Order of the Green, hmmmmm. Well let's see, I could push that one neighbor down the street, who has an orange tractor, tractor over the side of the mound it is parked on.

Going orange, hmm, naahhhh. I don't have anything that goes well with the color orange.

Nuru · Mar 20, 2002

Yep, that is pretty much it.

jinman · Mar 21, 2002

Nuru & JM-III: Thanks for the kind sympathy for my dad. That incident was forty years ago when I was 14, but I still remember it very clearly. The injury didn't slow him down much in the long run and I had to beg him to stay off that tractor when he was 84. He loved his little Ferguson TO-20 and used to brag about how much better it was than a Ford 8N. He passed away when he was 85 and was very active right up until two weeks before his death. He wouldn't/didn't want anyone feeling sorry for him.

Nuru, thanks for having a sense of humor about my "illustration"./w3tcompact/icons/shocked.gif We are all the "donkey" at some point in our lives./w3tcompact/icons/blush.gif Just last week we did a groundbreaking on my new house and I was helping move dirt with my NH TC45D. I have a 72" loader bucket, and I had it heaped with sand most of the time (attachment). Even with my boxblade on the rear, as I approached the dumpsite going downhill, the nose of my tractor wanted to take a "dive" and lift the rear wheels. My "pucker muscle" got plenty of exercise. It's amazing how much a full bucket of dirt can weigh. When you get your scoop, just please be careful. It's okay to brag about how much you can lift with your tractor, but it's also okay to feel good about how safely you can operate your tractor. If your rear scoop is full, the same rule applies as for a FEL bucket. Keep your load low, and if the tires come off the ground, drop the load to the ground and get the situation under control. Good luck.

Bob_Trevithick · Mar 21, 2002

...50 HP in my mind LOL! Not a Turbo Yet! 

Nuru, you may have the only naturally-aspirated turbocharged 4100 on the entire planet!! There should be some way you could get rich from this... /w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif

Bob

Bob_Trevithick · Mar 21, 2002

...I could have opted to get a gear version and a loader, but I wanted Hydro and a blade. 

My Deere dealer told me that the pushing geometry of the front blade was much better that that of the loader.. you were pushing straight against the frame. Since a lot of what I need to do is push dirt right now (kind of bulldozer work), and since it seemed like a blade which could angle right and left would be better for snow, I opted for the blade also.

Since there's been no snow, and everything is mud, I haven't really been able to see how well all of thise is going to work.

Oh, I did add a rear scoop.. 30".. I've lifted 1500 lbs. with it without a problem. I may need more weight out front if I want to lift more than that.

Bob

TresCrows · Mar 21, 2002

Sorry, I don't drink, not even beer.
Hey, I am always looking for new converts to the clan, where's the love Nuru, where's the love?
Seriously, how about some pictures of that dirt scoop thing, what was wrong with the dirt scoop from KK? It would make a great basket after you eventually get a loader, you could use it for floral arrangements. One fella, I forgot who, had another benefit of a FEL, throw a party and you can put all the beer iced down in the loader and serve it to your guests out by the pool or patio!!!!(hey I don't drink but everyone else does--not a religious thing--I just do not drink). AAaaaaand since you got no mower for the up coming season of grass you will be able to lift the ice beer high enough above the weeds that your guest will be able to see them.
The love, the love Nuru, I am your buddy.
J

Nuru · Mar 21, 2002

jinman, will definitely take the advice. The dang tax bill just came in and it i s 2100 buck. [censored] there goes the budget, bigtime. I hope i can still squeeze the mower deck. I got a quote in NH for $2150, CT $2250 + tax, RI 2550+tax. Looks like RI is out. gotta negotiate with the SCFO to do the taxes and the MMM. Wish me luck!

Nuru · Mar 21, 2002

Thank Bob.

Nuru · Mar 21, 2002

Thanks Bob.

Nuru · Mar 21, 2002

tres, i was really havng some fun reading this. Thanks for the laughter. Here is a picture of the 36" scoop. Loader before MMM? no way, I can see it now SCFO would run me out into yard and I would probably have to sleep in the bicket to get away from the static /w3tcompact/icons/frown.gif!

Nuru · Mar 21, 2002

Bob, depending on my part of the tax bill, I will try to get the MMM at least, but the scoop may be out of the picture unless I get it later than I really need it - after mulch replacement season (April and May)

Nuru · Mar 22, 2002

54" MMM gonna be picked up next week or weekend. Got an offer of $1796 with mulch kit and tax included. 60" just does not seem worth it for an extra 800 bucks for 6" inches of cut.

Nuru · Mar 23, 2002

Well since the dealer actually did not have the 54" inhouse he is now offering me a 60" for $2100, I think i can handle that in April, right after taxes! Now I gotta figure how I am ginna handle the trailer width!