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Msamt

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On a DK 45SE HST how much weight would fully loaded R4 tires with Rim guard add? assuming 80% is what the dealer put in there. Trying to figure out my trailer purchase requirements. Kioti says the tractor weighs 3924 with R1 tires, any idea the weight difference loaded R4s make?
 
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I've got a chart somewhere but can't find it. Be patient someone will come on here pretty soon with a chart. It'll be dependent on tire size and will give the weights of various liquids.
 
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Thanks no hurry. Sounds about right, thought he said 600 per tire. So around 52-5400 lbs is a good guess, then the loader adds ~1300 lbs, so total weight is what, 700 lbs or so?

Means my silverado with a 9200 lb rating may be on the hairy edge no?
 
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Thanks no hurry. Sounds about right, thought he said 600 per tire. So around 52-5400 lbs is a good guess, then the loader adds ~1300 lbs, so total weight is what, 700 lbs or so?

Means my silverado with a 9200 lb rating may be on the hairy edge no?

Yup. You'll need to max everything out with 10,000 pound class IV and your truck will be the the weak link. With my F150, I'll also be right on the edge with a 4600 pound machine, 1550 pounds of rim guard and a loader. Anyway, since your trying to puzzle out what trailer to get, I can tell you what I did: I purchased a PJ Trailers C5 car hauler to transport the tractor I purchase next week. GVWR is 12500, and so the trailer is good to go with load weight I anticipate Here is the thread discussing the trailer I'll purchased.
 
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Thanks no hurry. Sounds about right, thought he said 600 per tire. So around 52-5400 lbs is a good guess, then the loader adds ~1300 lbs, so total weight is what, 700 lbs or so?

Means my silverado with a 9200 lb rating may be on the hairy edge no?
You need to watch your zero's!

But 7,000 lbs is about right, w/ chains, fuel, etc. FOR THE TRACTOR. Remember the trailer weighs also, maybe 2,300 lbs.

But why do you want to put it on a trailer? For display?

If you are solely transporting it for repair you don't need to worry about other implements, however you might want to plan another 1,000 lbs for a tiller or chipper.

Whatever you get make sure it's wider than your minimum requirement, a few extra inches is easy to get but seems to depend on brand.

When I bought my 12.5K Hudson in '09 it came w/ tractor and all fit fine with room to spare, it's 78" between the wheels.

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And weight (B7610+ implements ~ 2.5K) was fine.

But, I failed to take into account the wheel setting on my used M4700 I was going to buy in '13. The M4700 was set at the widest wheel spacing, about 2" too wide to fit between the wheels.

My son and I had to move the rear LOADED wheels around BY HAND. It was a pain getting them lined up. Due to time constraints and logistics we did 1 wheel at a time and left them reversed.
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But it fit with < 2" to spare. Which to me, was a lot better than buying a new trailer.

Now down in Mississippi I've got more resources (large concrete floored workshop, cranes etc.) to swap them correctly. And the weight, even if I put a backhoe on it should be less than 10K.

So try and look ahead and see what else you'll need to transport. And be looking for a more powerful truck.
 
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Here"s one for water and also a calcium mix. Loading of tires starts on about page 40.
 

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Thanks all, Newbury asks a good question - why?
I was trying to determine if it makes sense to buy a trailer big enough to haul the tractor, since I was looking for a utility trailer. Way it looks that doesn't make sense as my truck could barely tow it. So back to the drawing board, and maybe a cheap utility trailer is better.
Thanks for all the replies!
 
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It also matters how often and how far you might want to transport your tractor. Although I coveted a trailer, too, I found it much more cost-effective for my relatively short hauls to have a local towing company move it for me on a roll-back wrecker...plus, they had the liability while in transit. It irked me to pay the round-trip hauling fee (about $150 for my 40 km round trip distance), but saving that each haul by using my own trailer wouldn't have paid for the trailer+maintenance.
If you are a frequent and/or longer distance hauler, it might make more sense to invest in your own mated truck/trailer hauling setup.
 
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Thanks no hurry. Sounds about right, thought he said 600 per tire. So around 52-5400 lbs is a good guess, then the loader adds ~1300 lbs, so total weight is what, 700 lbs or so?

Means my silverado with a 9200 lb rating may be on the hairy edge no?

What truck do you have? CJ
 
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2010 Silverado 4x4 extended cab, z71 with 9200 lb towing capacity
 
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I'm with the crowd that says pay to tow when needed. Zero maintenance, zero insurance, zero registration, etc. Those costs add up, and a trailer that mostly sits is a waste of resource $ to be used elsewhere, IMHO.
Upgrading your vehicle to needed capacity is another big expense. Ask yourself, realistically, how much towing of your tractor and whichever implements are you ACTUALLY going to do?
Calculate that!:)
 
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2010 Silverado 4x4 extended cab, z71 with 9200 lb towing capacity

The longer the truck the better, if you were towing in the mountains I would be worried but with a 10-12k trailer, properly set up and common sense you should be fine. Now let me predicate that a little, How much experience do you have towing equipment? If you don't have the necessary experience find somebody to teach you or like was stated pay to have it done. I would have no problem towing what you want with your truck and my 10k flatbed. CJ
 
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Towing, i believe
 
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Agree, i do need a trailer to gather wood on though, that is leading me to 6k lb Gvwr utility trailer.
 
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Agree, i do need a trailer to gather wood on though, that is leading me to 6k lb Gvwr utility trailer.

It is only a few $$$ more for a 10k with brakes. I think I paid 2k for my 18' flat, put side racks on it and a pallet with chains to unload it with [put pallet in front with the chains on the bottom of the load, hook it to a tree and drive forward and your done] Hauled wood for years like that and the tractors as needed with the same trailer. A 6k trailer is good for a cord and a half at best. A 10k would be the minimum I would have for wood. And the upgraded 6k axles are less likely to bend than the 3500lb axles. I have replaced 2 complete 3500lb axles and replace 1 3500lb spindle. Never replaced anything other than tires on 6k and above. CJ
 

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