Flail Mower Let's talk flail mowers

   / Let's talk flail mowers #4,071  
I'm specing out a new tractor and want to use a flail mower in the places I've already cleared with a rotary. Would 29 pto hp be enough to drive a Woodmaxx 62" with hammer flails? How about a 78"?
I'd be mowing grass and small shrubs 1" and less. Some rocks (sandstone). Basically whatever survived initial clearing with the rotary.
 
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   / Let's talk flail mowers #4,072  
I'm specing out a new tractor and want to use a flail mower in the places I've already cleared with a rotary. Would 29 pto hp be enough to drive a Woodmaxx 62" with hammer flails? How about a 78"?
I'd be mowing grass and small shrubs 1" and less. Some rocks (sandstone). Basically whatever survived the rotary.

Yes, 29hp at PTO would be adequate for either size. If you run the larger mower in lush long grass you will likely need to slow down or take partial cuts but the tractor will run it. My DK40se with ?34hp at PTO runs a 75" flail in waist high grasses at less than full PTO speed.
 
   / Let's talk flail mowers #4,073  
I'm specing out a new tractor and want to use a flail mower in the places I've already cleared with a rotary. Would 29 pto hp be enough to drive a Woodmaxx 62" with hammer flails? How about a 78"?
I'd be mowing grass and small shrubs 1" and less. Some rocks (sandstone). Basically whatever survived initial clearing with the rotary.
My L3200hst 32hp, 25pto ran a 7' Ford 917 fine as long as I went slow. Side slicers, not duck foot hammers. Not sure how much knife type affects things, at least with respect to power requirements.

I'm a fan of going wide & going slow if you can deal with the lesser maneuverability of a bigger implement.
 
   / Let's talk flail mowers #4,074  
Thanks.

Our land is steep with a number of small less steep parts that I have cleared or will clear in the future. I'm thinking manuverability is more important than the number of acres per hour that I can mow.
 
   / Let's talk flail mowers #4,075  
Thanks.

Our land is steep with a number of small less steep parts that I have cleared or will clear in the future. I'm thinking manueverability is more important than the number of acres per hour that I can mow.

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If you have that type of terrain your going to need ag tires and a tractor with adjustable rear tires that can be adjusted outward for the widest stance for stability, traction and grip not R4's.

If you have granite coming up from frost heave you need to invest in landscape rake that can be mounted up front or flagging each boulder and digging it out as they will raise **** with the flail mower rotor knife hangers if the granite is close enough to the surface that it will shatter and possibly break knife mounting station and then you are stuck as the flail mower rotor will be out of balance and a new knife mounting station will have to be welded back on the rotor.

about your tires:
You will need to have them loaded with liquid ballast and also preferably to have suitcase weights in front to maintain stability and the center of gravity which is the center line through the center of the engine cradle or the mating surface of oil pan and engine block.

You have to keep in mind that your mules four tires are going to be contacting less than a square foot of ground in total
When working-YES less than a square foot of tread!!!! You should invest in a mechanical tilt meter or a digital one.
Dont overthink it; your car has less than 6 inches of tread contacting a road BTW.

When mowing steep areas above fifteen degrees you should plan on backing up and then driving down the area to be mowed as you can mow as you climb and then make a second pass on the same area as you descend with the tractor.

If you invest in the value leader flail mower you need ot plan on purchasing a wet well grinder from Micro Mark for $99.00 plus tax and shipping as you will need to sharpen the cast hammers several times during the mowing season and a wet well grinder will not destroy the temper of the hammer knife if they have been heat treated.

For the money invested a Caroni Flail Mower with a B flail mower Rotor may be a better choice BUT keep in mind that since Vrisimo is in California and you can buy parts from a local dealer a Vrisimo orchard and Vineyard flail shredder will be more cost effective in the long run as the side slicer knives are less costly to buy per unit and easier to wet grind to a sharp edge and you can maintain a 2 inch mowing height in one pass.

The other thing to keep in mind is the flail hammer knives will not let you shred the brush in a second pass to shred the brush and grass finer.

If you invest in a smaller mule such as the Kubota B series or the JD series 2 mules with loaded R-2 ag or turf tires and suitcase weights and the Vrisimo Orchard and Vineyard Shredder Flail Mower or the Caroni with the B flail mower rotor you will have a more useable mower as you can and will be able to mow brush and good sod grass without changing anything.
 
   / Let's talk flail mowers #4,076  
I need some advice here... I have a Massey Ferguson 1529 which has 23.2hp at the PTO. I need a mower option for my property in Western NC. The property is hilly in one section, but overall pretty flat... and I will mow probably 2.5 acres. I kind of like the Caroni TM1900, but I am concerned that the PTO power may not be high enough. The 3pt will have plenty of lift, and I think the tractor probably weighs about 4000lbs with the loader and filled rears.

Does anyone use a 6 ft. flail behind a tractor similar to mine?
 
   / Let's talk flail mowers #4,077  
I need some advice here... I have a Massey Ferguson 1529 which has 23.2hp at the PTO. I need a mower option for my property in Western NC. The property is hilly in one section, but overall pretty flat... and I will mow probably 2.5 acres. I kind of like the Caroni TM1900, but I am concerned that the PTO power may not be high enough. The 3pt will have plenty of lift, and I think the tractor probably weighs about 4000lbs with the loader and filled rears.

Does anyone use a 6 ft. flail behind a tractor similar to mine?

My tractor has more power but I wouldn't hesitate to run a Caroni TM1900 with 23 hp at PTO. When the grass is tall or very lush you may need to slow down a bit but your tractor will handle that mower.
 
   / Let's talk flail mowers #4,078  
I need some advice here... I have a Massey Ferguson 1529 which has 23.2hp at the PTO. I need a mower option for my property in Western NC. The property is hilly in one section, but overall pretty flat... and I will mow probably 2.5 acres. I kind of like the Caroni TM1900, but I am concerned that the PTO power may not be high enough. The 3pt will have plenty of lift, and I think the tractor probably weighs about 4000lbs with the loader and filled rears.

Does anyone use a 6 ft. flail behind a tractor similar to mine?

Read back a few pages. I ran a 7' flail behind my 25 HP PTO L3200 just fine. If you go big on low HP you just need to go slow, which is easier on you & your machine. 2 less HP would probably run the 7' 917 fine but slow. Narrower would be easier. And at 4k lbs it should have better 3pt lift than my L3200 which topped out at 3,500lbs with loader & loaded tires & handled the 7' just fine.
 
   / Let's talk flail mowers #4,079  
So, has anyone ever tried to pick up a 1,400 pound flail with a JD 4105??
(or similar sized tractor)

The 4105 is virtually identical to an 8N Ford, except the 3 point is rated at 2,200 pounds,,,

Will I be looking at the clouds, if I hook the JD 390 to the JD 4105?,,, :confused2:
 
   / Let's talk flail mowers #4,080  
So, has anyone ever tried to pick up a 1,400 pound flail with a JD 4105?? (or similar sized tractor) The 4105 is virtually identical to an 8N Ford, except the 3 point is rated at 2,200 pounds,,, Will I be looking at the clouds, if I hook the JD 390 to the JD 4105?,,, :confused2:

JD website says the 390 is 1093lbs for the 8'3" overall width unit. For something 8n sized you may want to consider some ballast on the front. If you come up on a slope you may very well be looking at the sky.
 
 

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