Jack Pine Stumpin

[JbirdNC]

Nice. If it ends tipping, you could add a couple outriggers

I agree. It might be unstable, but I was already home and into the build when I thought of that. I can always bolt a 4x4x4’ perpendicular on the bottom to make a stable base. Might do that tomorrow, but I’m gonna try it like it is first.

 

[JbirdNC]

The good old days:

https://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/photos/414736-stump-removal-good-old-days.html

Bruce

That’s awesome Bruce. I love old photos of industry. It gives me hope.

 

[ovrszd]

Again I ask, why not just dig the stumps out?

 

[MossRoad]

Again I ask, why not just dig the stumps out?

It might be faster to pull them in some cases, depending if you can get the leverage and a good grip on the stump.

 

[ddbackhoe]

It might be faster to pull them in some cases, depending if you can get the leverage and a good grip on the stump.

But why purchase a backhoe if you're going to use an ax, sawzall, pick, shovel and pull? :confused2:

 

[Egon]

Use the outriggers for an angle to get underneath the stump and use the bucket curl to break the root.

 

[MossRoad]

But why purchase a backhoe if you're going to use an ax, sawzall, pick, shovel and pull? :confused2:

Because most people think it will be "neat" to own a backhoe on a small machine, then they find out it's too small for the huge tasks they want to take on in a limited time frame.

 

[ovrszd]

I say it's not the size of the BH but the patience of the Operator that limits task completion.

 

[MossRoad]

Yes, that's why I mentioned limited time frame. With a large stump and a small backhoe, we'll most likely have to dig an ever-widening hole until we can get out to roots that are small enough to break with the backhoe. And even then, if it has large roots under it, we might not be able to break them. So out comes the sawzall, shovels, pickaxe, ammonium nitrate, diesel fuel, the ATF...

 

[ovrszd]

Yes, that's why I mentioned limited time frame. With a large stump and a small backhoe, we'll most likely have to dig an ever-widening hole until we can get out to roots that are small enough to break with the backhoe. And even then, if it has large roots under it, we might not be able to break them. So out comes the sawzall, shovels, pickaxe, ammonium nitrate, diesel fuel, the ATF...

That's how I dig out stumps with my full-size TLB. Last Summer I removed a large Oak stump for my Son. Didn't use any handtools. Just kept expanding the hole. When I could finally get the stump out you could have buried a Jeep in the hole. But when done I had no large roots at surface level to deal with later.

 

[truckdiagnostics]

i use a chunk of flat bar with with notches cut in it. Then i tack weld it to one of my pallet forks. I remove the other. Jam that in the ground ripping the roots. Then get under it with the pallet fork and use your curl and the pop it out. I don't cut the trees down first. then I can grab onto them with the 4-1 bucket shake the tree and root ball knocking off most of the dirt, the stump burns better that way. Then while I am holding onto it, someone cuts it up. key is doing it before they get too.... big.

 

[JbirdNC]

I agree. It might be unstable, but I was already home and into the build when I thought of that. I can always bolt a 4x4x4 perpendicular on the bottom to make a stable base. Might do that tomorrow, but I知 gonna try it like it is first.

Well, the test was a miserable failure. DEFINITELY need outriggers on this contraption. It fell over repeatedly. My redesign included two more 4x4s which was enough wood to give me a very stable outrigger setup:

 

[airbiscuit]

Nice work. Now for a video of it in action.

 

[JbirdNC]

To answer the question regarding Backhoe vs tools, for me personally it’s a factor of time and space. These stumps are in my immediate backyard and I’m on a time crunch to get them out in order to grade, seed and a host of other improvements I need to tackle in the next 2 weeks. The backhoe is awesome and I do not regret the purchase. I read a lot of remarks in how it’s overrated and too expensive and ineffective and I’d have to disagree. If you need one you need one, and it’s nice to have anytime I need it. It’s limited by hydraulic pressure and the weight of the tractor, but it’s still 1000x better than a shovel. I use it to dig down until I’m hitting a root I can’t bust through, not to mention my property has ALOT of rock in the ground. Here is the rock that has come out of the stump holes so far:


Here is rock previously removed with rented equipment:


So, removing the bulk dirt to be able to access roots better with a small shovel and use a Sawzall is way more efficient (in my situation) than digging up the entire yard, because that’s how many stumps and roots there are. These stump roots are between 4 and 12” thick too!


And here is the stump that I previously couldn’t pull out with 3:1 advantage using pulleys but popped out with 2:1 using my new gantry device:


Here we s the one I’m working on currently. It’s over 24” across and is the biggest one yet. I think I have another root or two to find and cut and then I’ll try to video the pull.

 

[JbirdNC]

Keep in mind my Lil 24hp tractor weighs 3500lb with BH and loaded tires!

 

[airbiscuit]

That means your gantry works!

 

[TractorGuy]

Again I ask, why not just dig the stumps out?

Yep, backhoes are made for digging. I dig till they fall over in the hole and then pull them out.

 

[Egon]

To answer the question regarding Backhoe vs tools, for me personally it’s a factor of time and space. These stumps are in my immediate backyard and I’m on a time crunch to get them out in order to grade, seed and a host of other improvements I need to tackle in the next 2 weeks. The backhoe is awesome and I do not regret the purchase. I read a lot of remarks in how it’s overrated and too expensive and ineffective and I’d have to disagree. If you need one you need one, and it’s nice to have anytime I need it. It’s limited by hydraulic pressure and the weight of the tractor, but it’s still 1000x better than a shovel. I use it to dig down until I’m hitting a root I can’t bust through, not to mention my property has ALOT of rock in the ground. Here is the rock that has come out of the stump holes so far:
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Here is rock previously removed with rented equipment:
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So, removing the bulk dirt to be able to access roots better with a small shovel and use a Sawzall is way more efficient (in my situation) than digging up the entire yard, because that’s how many stumps and roots there are. These stump roots are between 4 and 12” thick too!
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And here is the stump that I previously couldn’t pull out with 3:1 advantage using pulleys but popped out with 2:1 using my new gantry device:
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Here we s the one I’m working on currently. It’s over 24” across and is the biggest one yet. I think I have another root or two to find and cut and then I’ll try to video the pull.
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On that 24 “ stump is that as deep as you dig? Try cutting. A trench about three feet deep and four feet from the stump on at least three sides. Digging a little farther from the stump makes it easier to break the roots.

 

[ovrszd]

On that 24 “ stump is that as deep as you dig? Try cutting. A trench about three feet deep and four feet from the stump on at least three sides. Digging a little farther from the stump makes it easier to break the roots.

Yep. Distance varied based on stump size. Once the stump can be flopped around in the hole you dig the dirt loose from it leaving all you can in the hole.

 

[truckdiagnostics]

Put a ripper bar on the bucket such that when you curl your bucket it will rip the roots. rip the roots on one side. Then driver around to other side reach over the top of the stump with the hoe. With the curl of the bucket pry the stump towards you. Then move 90 degrees to the roots and rip them with the ripper bar on the bucket. The ripper bar does not need to be anything fancy.
With the ripper bar you can get tight areas, and with the curl of the bucket you can keep the hole from getting large.
I have a back hoe attachment for the loader. We had a bunch in a confined space this is what worked best. we have rock in the soil also. The saws all doesn't work so good cause the root sits there and moves back and forth with the blade or I end up loosing my patience use the chain saw and trash a chain.