Iseki tx1500 name of lifting arms part?

[marcelPL]

Yes, the part that is already removed is fas from complete. I am still emailing these people about this.

The two donor-tractors are resp. tx1300 and tx1510. And yes, the last is slightly different. So my best bet would be the tx1300 of these two. The bad news is that (i think) it is in a very bad shape. But the good news is that they will actually put it on my tractor in their workshop, so i guess i would end up with a working unit. But it is ( a lot) more expensive than the one already removed.

I got some photo's from the one already removed, and i have a bad feeling about this. My guess would be that this (brown coloured) piston would normally be connected to the part giving the hydraulic pressure, right?







Any comments on the state of this thing are more than welcome, thanks again.

 

[fxrs55]

The rod from the lift arms does not connect the the piston.
the end of the rod is rounded on the one end that goes
into the inside of the piston. To raise the 3 point using
the valve the hydraulic oil pushes on the top of the
piston pushing it down the cylinder and lifting the arms
To lower you push the lever on the valve forward and
the weight of the implement brings the arms down.
If you were using a rotary tiller on the 3 point and
you were to hit something hard in the dirt and because
the piston rod is Not connected to the piston the rotary
will just kick up. If the piston rod was attached to piston and you hit
something the rotary would try to kick up but something is
going to break or maybe even flip tractor. That is why
the piston rod is not connected to the piston. The inside
of the piston which is cast iron has a socket shape so the end
of rod centers in the bottom of the piston

 

[fxrs55]

the one that is already removed does not appear to have
everything you will need to make it work. you might spend
more money finding everything you need. The blue one
appears to have all of the parts and you will need the high
pressure line from the pump to the valve and that looks
like it is still on the blue tractor. If they are close to you
they could be a source of parts later on if you need
any. Ask them how much they want for the whole
tractor. then you would have spare parts.

Do you have the parts manuals for your tractor?
I am going to send you a private message, check for it.

 

[marcelPL]

The rod from the lift arms does not connect the the piston.
the end of the rod is rounded on the one end that goes
into the inside of the piston

Ok, very clear explanation, even for an idiot like me, thanks

 

[iseki]

I have a tx 1500 parts catalog , if you want I will send it to you

 

[marcelPL]

i would really appreciate that. Can you send me private message on how we can organise this?
thx!

 

[iseki]

i would really appreciate that. Can you send me private message on how we can organise this?
thx!

Give me your email and I will send it to you

 

[marcelPL]

Ok i have sent you private message, thanks!

 

[marcelPL]

Ok small update on this project: i picked up that parts that i need to get this working. The external state of these parts is not really good, but i guess i can work on this.

photos:







I have to thank the people that have sent me manuals on the iseki, without these i would not get those separate parts complete, it was nice to be able to tell these people exactly what i needed.

Other question: Looking at those manuals i saw that i am missing the gearbox oil level gauge. Can anybody here (owning tx1300/1500) check and send me exact dimensions of this part? foto's explaining this thing:



and



And last question: i want to change the gearbox oil (16 liters??), but cannot find the drain plug location in those manuals. Can anybody point me in the right direction?

 

[chrismac]

Hi, I hope I am correct but here is the drain plug, page 81 on my manual



Drain plug on the lower side of the gearbox.

Hope this works.

 

[fxrs55]

There is a drain plug on the left side of transmission.
There is also two drain plugs on the differential housing.
Check the pictures I attached.
Also there is a filter on the right side of transmission.

 

[fxrs55]

Transmission dip stick

 

[marcelPL]

There is a drain plug on the left side of transmission.
There is also two drain plugs on the differential housing.
Check the pictures I attached.
Also there is a filter on the right side of transmission.

Ok thanks for pointing in the right direction.

The dipstick i found in Germany after a 4 hour search, decided to buy it for $15, probably better than home-cooking this...

Other question: If i fill the differential with oil, will this automatic flow into gearbox? Because i cannot find separate opening for this.

Also: is it useful/necessary to take out this oil filter? Can it be cleaned? I am afraid i will do more harm than good....

Sorry to ask, i am really stupid in this area.

 

[fxrs55]

First thing is Don't be sorry to ask, that's how we all learn new things.
A large number of the members on this forum joined this forum
to ask questions about our tractors and learn how to work on them.
$15 dollars for that dip stick is a good deal to me. When I am going
to work on my cars or tractors or house or any other project
I pay myself $15 to $20 dollars an hour. So if I had to make that
dipstick and it took me 2 hours that's $40 dollars.
If I can buy the correct part for $15 dollars I save $25
dollars and just as important I have 2 hours to do something else.
Next answer is, Yes the differential and transmission use the same oil
and yes the oil flows into the transmission from the differential.
Next, that filter is made out of metal screen and it is reusable.
You just clean it and put it back in using 2 new o-rings.
O-rings are number P28.
Here are two pictures, one is looking into the transmission and
differential from the top. The oil flows between the two.
The other one shows the metal chips in the bottom of
the transmission next to where that filter goes.

 

[marcelPL]

I pay myself $15 to $20 dollars an hour.

With all the work on your DeBolean you must be a really rich guy by now

Seriously, i read the stuff from people like you and i feel stupid. With me even the most simple stuff is causing trouble. I want to change engine oil, but the bolt on the bottom is completely stuck. Cannot remove it, no matter what tools i throw at it. Even the smallest things fight back, it's really frustrating. And putting too many stupid questions here will cause guys like you to loose interest. Just my thoughts...

Anyway thanks again for the photos, i will get these P28 rings first, to make sure i won't get stuck. Looks like a lot of dirt on the bottom (2nd picture). Does it supposed to look like this?

 

[fxrs55]

Do what I did, Just drop the oil pan. I had to drop mine
so I could take the pistons out. Look at the pictures and you will
see all of the sludge that was in my pan. I was able to
clean out the sludge and then I cleaned the rest of the
pan and painted it black. I did use a new pan gasket
when I put the pan back on. Also the crud in the
picture of my transmission was NOT supposed to be
in there. That was metal chips from the bad service
that the owners before me did. The filter / screen
that was in my transmission was so clogged with
little metal chips that I just bought a new one.
I did start to clean the old one but it was useless.

 

[marcelPL]

i will. Finding only half a liter of oil in the gearbox does not give a lot of hope that previous owner(s) have taken good care of stuff...

I found gasket material, so i will actually do this and take it all out. I will post photos of how mine looks later, thanks again.

 

[chrismac]

i will. Finding only half a liter of oil in the gearbox does not give a lot of hope that previous owner(s) have taken good care of stuff...

I found gasket material, so i will actually do this and take it all out. I will post photos of how mine looks later, thanks again.

A word of warning about using gasket material, I did the same and used blue hylomar and it leaked, I think some of the reason was the material was too hard as the origional was quite soft, I ended up re-using the origional gasket and using rtv silicone I think it was called, that cured the leak, it was only a drip but it was annoying and its a pest to remove the 4 wheel front drive shaft at get access, or I should say its a pest removing the cover more so, or at least it was on mine.

 

[marcelPL]

Ok here come the explorations and observations from the past weekend. I tripled the size of my toolbox, so i should be ok. Temperature in garage was below zero, this part was not funny. I took the fenders to create some space and light. I had a 'do you feel lucky' moment, so i also removed the wheels. I really start to love the effective simplicity of this tractor.



Time to take out the oil. From gearbox/differential where was more left than i expected, some 5 liters or so. From the engine i used some vacuum thing to suck out as much as possible, but far less than one liter come out. So i dropped the oil-pan, and let the rest bleed out...



After this i removed the oil-filter from gearbox. In the end something really messy came out, could not believe the mess. Also i was looking for two o-rings, but only one came out. Must check the manual if maybe the second was left behind, and how to get it out...



After this i removed the top from gearbox, to have a look inside, possibly clean things up, and check the state of the gearbox wheels (?). For sure there is a dirty mess inside, and some damage to some gearbox radars (?), but i do not think it's a show-stopper. For sure fixing it is beyond my abilities. For sure this gearbox has been opened up before, i found one little part of the top was broken. I hope the gasket will not be effected by this...



So that's how i spent my saturday... To be continued...

 

[marcelPL]

So here's my sunday. Cleaning time. I put the oil filter from gearbox in a bath of diesel to clean it. It shows 2 clear holes in the copper net. Not sure if i can fix this...



I started cleaning the outside of differential, basically to be able to see oil leakage whenever this machine will start running again. I really don't understand why they create so many holes and openings. Probably for strength or something. Also cleaned the gearbox top, in and outside. The inside will need compressed air to blow out the little parts, i will try to get one next weekend. I took some of my gasket paper to have a play with this...



Here is where i expect to be in trouble. How did i never see this? The left side of the rear of differential is pretty damaged. Two holes for the big bolts are completely gone. My guess is that this was caused by the way previous owner(s) connected the excavator/backhoe to the tractor, with the weight generating so much pull on the back that is actually broke off. There are actually movies on youtube where people are warning about connecting a backhoe to a mini-tractor, because of damage. The two bolts can still be put inside there, but for any 3-point operation that generates horizontal backward pull on the structure i will have to be careful. Bummer....



I also had a good look inside the engine from below. Here everything looks ok to me, cannot see any damage or sludge on the housing or other parts. If anyone sees anything strange then please tell me? Also i see a number inside the engine housing, beginning with '75'. Any idea what this is?




Started to clean the new 3-point hydraulic casing. The inside is looking ok, besides a little rust. The outside could use some paint to make it look nice.



Last part is cleaning the oil pan. I let it bleed out for 24 hours, but still there was 1 centimeter of sludge on the bottom. So it was good to take it out. Today i will drop the pan to some tractor shop close by, and ask them if they can remove the bolt. I am not the first to change the oil like this, i found 4 (or 5?) layers of gaskets, all different. I hope the pan is still completely straight, because of all the different gaskets used. Also they used some liquid gasket, i should try and remove this all. Somehow my local tractor shop never heard of tools to remove gaskets. Have to find a place where i can buy this. Can i use a screwdriver or a chisel to carefully remove this?



Ok so the questions for this moment are:

1. How do i clean the inside of the differential and gearbox? Can i just throw a liter of diesel, stir things up a bit, and blow everything out with compressed air?

2. Any suggestions on how to fix this oil-filter from gearbox? Or can i just take these two holes for granted?

3. Can i use paper gasket on the bottom/oilpan? I know that cylinder head gaskets cannot be paper, but does this also go for the bottom?

I'm sure i will come up with more questions. For now i am going to try and find an engine oll-filter for this 30-year old. Will be a challenge....