International Pickup

[Joe_W]

Hello,
You guys are so good at finding information, I thought I would try this one on you. I just bought a 59 A-100 International Pickup with the BD220 6 cyl engine and 1 bbl carb, and the accelerator pump in the carb does not work, which causes it to stumble badly when pulling away from a stop. My question is do any of you know where I can find carb info and maybe a blowup of the carb itself. I also can't find any markings on the carb to tell me which model it is. I've searched all the obvious combos of IHC, International, etc., but I've not been able to find any useful info.
Thanks for any help,
Joe W.

 

[wroughtn_harv]

Back in my youth I had some Internationals , two seventeen hundred two tons and a one ton pickemup.

The biggest problem with them was you had to have a serial number off the chassis to get the right part. It seems International would pick the cheapest vendor each and every time. So you could have two trucks of the same model and year and some of the parts wouldn't interchange.

But darn, they'd run forever it seemed, just when they broke, it hurt the pocketbook bigtime.

 

[Anonymous Poster]

This may not be very helpful but here it is anyway. There is a place in California that rebuilt an old two barrel carburetor for me about fifteen years ago. Of course I do not know the name of the place, my local auto parts store recommended them when I had an oddball carburetor that needed to be rebuilt. I had to send mine to them and they worked on it for about a week and sent it back. Maybe a web search will turn something up. Now I am enough of a gearhead that I would just disassemble it myself. If you totally destroy it you can probably get another one from a junkyard anyway, and that one may work better anyway. I would hazard a guess that your old carburetor is not terribly complicated anyway, but only you know if you are up to taking it apart so you can watch the springs fly around the room/w3tcompact/icons/shocked.gif .

 

[RoyJackson]

Have you tried your public library for older Chilton manuals?
Other then that, this <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.vapinc.com/>link</A> might be a good starting point.
How you been to any parts stores yet (NAPA, for example)?

Those old International pickups are to the point now to be collectables. Of course, some of the older farmers probably still run trucks of that vintage. I've seen a number of farm trucks in southern PA of 50's vintage.

Reckon you'll probably end up with a newer carb. Finding a rebuild kit might be a tough chore.

By the way, those old engines really need leaded fuel. You can get the additives...used to be able to, anyway.
Internationals were really tough trucks, but they were real bad on fuel consumption!!!

 

[Hillbilly]

I cannot help you any,but when you said International truck,I cannot help but think of days gone by when a truck was a truck,like the old Dodge Power wagons/starters on the floor,parking brake next to the gear shift/throttles/gears so low 45 mph sound like a hundred mile an hour.trucks that were designed for work and not made as a touring car./w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

 

[Richard]

>>I've searched all the obvious combos of IHC, International, etc., <<

I THINK they went through buy outs, and name changes ..... As such, I think their last name was "Navistar". I doubt that will help much..think the others have given you better info..but I just thought I'd put that out there to you just in case.

Just checked...can go to <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.navistar.com>http://www.navistar.com</A> and maybe find something? Good luck

Richard

 

[RobertN]

I just happen to have my <font color=red>Harvester Highlights</font color=red> from the <font color=red>International Harvester Collectors</font color=red> sitting here... Here are some ad's from the magazine...
<A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.redpowermagazine.com>http://www.redpowermagazine.com</A>

"Classic Tractors and Trucks"
shop: 218-493-4288

http://www.ihcollectors.org

One of those should get you started in the right direction...

 

[Slamfire]

The accelerator pump probably has a worn out diaphragm. When you can't find a replacement you have to make one. I did it once with duct tape for a '37 Nash windshield wiper motor.

 

[Joe_W]

I thank all of you for your replies. I intend to repair this carb, but something tells me that I have a part or two missing. I pulled the pump diaphragm out of the carb, and I don't see anything happening to the linkage in the bottom of the diaphragm chamber when I move the throttle linkage. This leads me to believe that there is something missing internally with the diaphragm linkage. The diaphragm itself appears to be OK. I want to tear it down, but first I want to find the model number of the carb and try to get a kit for it so I don't have to make the gaskets.
I tried all of these links prior to posting this except for the carb shop in Fletcher, Ohio which is about 35 miles from here. I was hoping that he would have something to help me, but it appears that he only deals in tractors. I'll call him to make sure though.
Thanks again for your suggestions and responses, I appreciate all your help. I tried to post a picture with the original post, but it didn't work. I'll try one more time.
Joe W.

 

[Ozarker]

I did a search on this and, if the information I found is accurate, IH used the same 1bbl from 1956 until well into the 60's.

It is possible that you have a Holly 64-3135 or 64-3136. They are the same carb with the only difference being the 35 has a 2 3/4" flange bolt pattern and the 36 a 3" flange bolt pattern.

Those are the Holly part numbers. The carb may be stamped with the application number of "Holly 1904" or "H1904" or just "1904" somewhere on the body. I would look under the fuel bowl or near the flange.

Of course I have no way of confirming that this information is accurate but I think it is. I've owned a couple of Cornbinders myself and learned how to drive in a 1948 K5. I was a gear jamming, double clutching mother trucker back in my youth. My dad has a 53 IH that I may inherit soon. He and I did a frame up restoration of it back in 1968, Including a 12v conversion of everything but the starter and radio. No trouble spinning that engine in the winter. Throw 12v into a 6v starter and it flat spins. Figured it would burn out in a few months back in 68' but it is still spinning today.

 

[Joe_W]

Hi Ozarker,
I finally found some numbers at the fuel inlet. The are impressed rather lightly, but I think they are "172954 R9 1", then underneath it says "LIST 1418 1" with spaces before the ones. Another twist on this truck, I took it down the road today and as long as I left just a little bit of choke on, it ran fine, but as soon as I fully opened the choke at idle, it died. I haven't had time to check it out, but I think there is enough play in the linkage that the idle screw fell off of the choke cam, and closed the throttle completely. Ah the fun of antique engines.
Thanks,
Joe

 

[Ozarker]

Yep........that is a Holly. You can go to any parts store such as NAPA and order a kit for it.

Pulling the choke a little just allows it to run a little rich so if that makes it run better going down the road, the jet is probably dirty and not allowing enough fuel through. The idle circuit is probably also gummed up. Nothing that a good soaking in carburetor cleaner won't fix.

Assuming that nothing is broken or missing, a rebuild will probably make it just like new.

 

[brewerbob]

Single Barrel Holley model 1904 according to my Chilton's Manual.
Bob