Installing Diesel Motor???

/ Installing Diesel Motor???
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#51  
I just looked at the GEAR VENDER site.....everything is $2995, then figure out how or whom to install it??????
About those diesels....weren't the 350" gas converted to diesels known to be trouble? I don't mind "sluggish" but I DO mind unreliable......
Thanks:ashamed:
 
/ Installing Diesel Motor??? #52  
weren't the 350" gas converted to diesels known to be trouble?

In a word. Yes.

Later years were better, but still suffered from issues of not being a Diesel block to begin with
 
/ Installing Diesel Motor??? #53  
Watch putting a 6 cyl 6 ltr motor in the blaser as it is a tight squese to do.

There is plenty of small 4 to 5 Ltr motors to choose from. Problem some of the later motors red line at 2800 the 4 Ltr isusi red lined at 3600 but you could make them run ti 4000 with no reliable probs.

I did this for a job and my personal work vehicle was a Hilux up graded from the 2.2 ltr to a 3 ltr with turbo. The rear diff was a Dyna van (land cruser) running at 4.5 - 1. Anything higher would have made it over geared.

Your petrol Auto gear box will fall apart with a deisel in front of it unless you get a deisel toque converter.

As for a new fuel tank and lines that is not correct as every manufacture uses the same tank in a deisel amd petrol. You just need to drain it out well.

Just a warning unless you are going to use it daily it is not worth it.
 
/ Installing Diesel Motor??? #54  
I KNOW some of you guys have considered installing a diesel motor in your SUV's or Pick-ups.
I have a 1975 BLAZER with a gas guzzling 350 Sure would like to go diesel. And I'm not talking a 600 cu in diesel, I'm talking a little motor.
Remember the VW diesel mini-pickups in the 80's....what happened to them? Isuzu built cars and mini's in the 80's....where'd they go?
I'm getting pretty sick of paying $4.00 a gallon and getting 17 MPG. (The Blazer gets 12 MPG) If you go to Europe EVERYTHING is diesel....cars, cabs, trucks....well, not motor cycles but it wouldn't surprise me:D
Any ideas here? Anything available? Can we get an old JD engine and fit it into a pickup?:confused:I]

year ago 1 of the college took a triump spitfire in stalled a kobota tractor motor. Hook it to a datson trany.They were getting 80to100 a gallon . I saw this on chanla 13 news call them an the said they were no showing this but i was watching it at the same time they would not tell me what college it was. But it can be don
 
/ Installing Diesel Motor??? #55  
I KNOW some of you guys have considered installing a diesel motor in your SUV's or Pick-ups.
I have a 1975 BLAZER with a gas guzzling 350 Sure would like to go diesel. And I'm not talking a 600 cu in diesel, I'm talking a little motor.
Remember the VW diesel mini-pickups in the 80's....what happened to them? Isuzu built cars and mini's in the 80's....where'd they go?
I'm getting pretty sick of paying $4.00 a gallon and getting 17 MPG. (The Blazer gets 12 MPG) If you go to Europe EVERYTHING is diesel....cars, cabs, trucks....well, not motor cycles but it wouldn't surprise me:D
Any ideas here? Anything available? Can we get an old JD engine and fit it into a pickup?:confused:I]

75 Blazer at over 5000 pounds empty(Have it scaled if you don't believe it),Cast iron 205 or 208 transfer case (depending on transmission) and
it only gets 17 miles per gallon.Hum?Don't believe anyone could live long enough or drive enough to make conversion to diesel pay off.Diesel
fuel used to be relatively cheap but not now !The old vw diesels were non turbo and SLOW.Who cares if you get forty miles to the gallon,if
you forgot why you were going in the first place by the time you get there.JMHO,Luck,JimAnderson
 
/ Installing Diesel Motor??? #56  
yeah the rabbits were slow but nobody cared because you were driving on home heating fuel or ag diesel.
 
/ Installing Diesel Motor??? #57  
I KNOW some of you guys have considered installing a diesel motor in your SUV's or Pick-ups.
I have a 1975 BLAZER with a gas guzzling 350 Sure would like to go diesel. And I'm not talking a 600 cu in diesel, I'm talking a little motor.
Remember the VW diesel mini-pickups in the 80's....what happened to them? Isuzu built cars and mini's in the 80's....where'd they go?
I'm getting pretty sick of paying $4.00 a gallon and getting 17 MPG. (The Blazer gets 12 MPG) If you go to Europe EVERYTHING is diesel....cars, cabs, trucks....well, not motor cycles but it wouldn't surprise me:D
Any ideas here? Anything available? Can we get an old JD engine and fit it into a pickup?:confused:I]

A 38yr old vehicle was junk decades ago. Not worth bothering with unless a collector item.
Check the price of diesel vs gasoline in the US and in Europe. Emissions regs too. A huge hint of why light diesels are popular outside of the USA/Canada.
Want to run that old vehicle and get better efficiency? Drop in a duel injected engine and auto transmisison with lockup torque and overdrive from a 99 or later truck with the new style LS small block.
Want the lowest price PER mile over the next 10 years instead of a diesle Blazer? Purchase a four cylinder direct injection Terrain or Equanox AWD and a 3500lb capacity landscaping trailer with electric brakes.
 
/ Installing Diesel Motor??? #58  
Maybe someone can confirm it, but I think I remember the 6.2l GM diesel block is a 350 cu. in. block, just different other parts. The 6.5l GM diesel is also the same block, different stroke and a turbo. Both are mechanical motors, and the weight isn't too much different. The idea of a tractor engine mod is pretty cool, but way past my patience. I think you will find one of those two will be a better fit for you. Put a solinoid on the inner fender for with a switch on the dash for glow plugs, fuel filter swap, and maybe a little research for your fuel tank, and I think it could be done. We bought a '84 gmc with a 6.2l diesel for $2500 last winter. You can find them pretty often for prices like that. The glow plugs are a pain to change, being located under the exhaust manifolds. We used to swap the 6.2l's for the turbo 6.5l's in Humvee's when I was in the Army. Overall, motor wise, the 350 should be a bolt in for the 6.2l or the 6.5l. The fuel filter and housing I picked up at Napa, I don't remember the price. The solinoid is also a very common Napa item.


Only similarity between the 6.2/6.5 blocks and GM gasoline V8 engines is. It has 8 cylinders and is a V8.
 
/ Installing Diesel Motor??? #59  
Engine swaps, of course, will depend on where you are. Some cities with SMOG testing get a bit **** about changing engines.

The Cummins 4BT is supposed to be a good fit for the Blazers.
There is a fairly new Mercedes V6 engine used in some of the Sprinter vans. It looks like it would be worth considering, but they are a bit spendy at the moment.
You mentioned the VW Caddy Diesel Pickup. There are also older Chevy Luv Diesels around, and a few Ford Ranger Diesels.

Mahindra had planned on bringing a small Diesel pickup to the USA, but apparently it has fallen through.
 
/ Installing Diesel Motor??? #60  
They were complete junk. Same sort of question; why don't you see 20 Yugos at every stoplight. You may have had one of the miracle engines, but I could not name one single diesel mechanic who would want any part of them. They were so bad that it nearly killed GM way back then. Now that I think about it, I wish it would have; it would have saved the taxpayers hundreds of billions in tax money given to GM that we will NEVER see again. Sorry, but GM is a case in study (literally in some college classes) in how you can still wreck a giant company when you simply rely on perceived customer loyalty and deliver total junk to those customers. Eventually they do go away.

The later years of the 350 Olds diesel was built the way the engineers wanted to build it instead of how the accountants wanted to build it. Unfortuately the damage to the diesel image was done.
The later Olds diesels had roller cam followers, a stronger block and some other upgrades.
Didn't help either that the typical owner/operator of the Olds diesel did not service them as per the driver's handbook. Gasoline engine oil instea dof diesle oil was another problem. Dirty fuel/water contaminated was another common problem. Dumping Methal alcohol gasline antifreeze into the diesels ruined the injection system.
If GM had started in 78 with the 81 style engine with the HD block, roller cam followers and water separator in the fuel system The Olds diesel would have had a fair chance instead of being doomed.
 

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