Infested with UTVs?

[MinnesotaEric]

I am wondering about your foot out during cornering ? is this common practice ? thought that was only a ice/dirt technique and on asphalt you had to keep in on the peg ?

That bike has a slipper clutch in it that allows the rear wheel to slide/spin until engine rpm and gearing catches up to actual road speed. What had just happened right before that photo was taken was that as I braked heavily into the corner, I banged the gears from 4th to 2nd gear while still going to fast for 2nd gear. The rear wheel, already light from the weight shifting to the front caused by my smooth, but heavy application of the front brake had caused the rear wheel to step out sideways.

Meanwhile, the front wheel was also sliding sorta-sideways as well (supermotos are fun to ride like dirt bikes on pavement). Anyway, since everything was goofy on purpose heading toward the corner apex, my foot was out there to add a little stability.

Nowadays, since everybody is practicing on supermotos, even top-tier road racers are sticking out their foot from time to time while braking into tighter corners.

Here is a video short of racing in the rain showing an example of exactly what I was doing in that corner with my supermoto.

 

[Rockbadchild]

That bike has a slipper clutch in it that allows the rear wheel to slide/spin until engine rpm and gearing catches up to actual road speed. What had just happened right before that photo was taken was that as I braked heavily into the corner, I banged the gears from 4th to 2nd gear while still going to fast for 2nd gear. The rear wheel, already light from the weight shifting to the front caused by my smooth, but heavy application of the front brake had caused the rear wheel to step out sideways.

Meanwhile, the front wheel was also sliding sorta-sideways as well (supermotos are fun to ride like dirt bikes on pavement). Anyway, since everything was goofy on purpose heading toward the corner apex, my foot was out there to add a little stability.

Nowadays, since everybody is practicing on supermotos, even top-tier road racers are sticking out their foot from time to time while braking into tighter corners.

Here is a video short of racing in the rain showing an example of exactly what I was doing in that corner with my supermoto.

makes sense now ... yes that's right they do it while breaking I forgot about that ... thanks... yes supermoto are sick I always wanted to try it ... when I took my motorcycle course it was a adjustment to keep my foot on the peg while turning, dirt bike muscle memory... the instructor kept telling me to keep it on the peg ...

 

[MinnesotaEric]

makes sense now ... yes that's right they do it while breaking I forgot about that ... thanks... yes supermoto are sick I always wanted to try it ... when I took my motorcycle course it was a adjustment to keep my foot on the peg while turning, dirt bike muscle memory... the instructor kept telling me to keep it on the peg ...

The technique is called "backing it in," and while fun, backing it in may or may not be the fastest way to bend a bike around a corner. It depends on the track, the conditions on the track, and if you're trying to pass or get around lapped traffic. That first video I posted, linked to a pretty good video on the actual theory and practice of trail braking and the rapid, but smooth transition from maximum throttle, to maximum braking that can lead to backing it into corners.

Rally drivers do the same thing on four wheels, only with a slight, sharp twitch into the direction of the corner to set the chassis to slide while under braking or throttle to which they then "catch" the slide by counter-steering the vehicle through the corner. It is a hoot to do with UTVs so long as you know nothing is coming around the corner if you cannot see through the corner.

Anyway, here is that theory and practice video that I thought was pretty good.

 

[Sprinkler Fitter]

We are lucky, were we operate our 6x6, motorized vehicles are banded.

What does this even mean? Banded?

I think the fact that many new UTV are to big to be allowed on official ATV trails pushes them to ride other places.

In Minnesota utv’s can ride on the official trails and on the shoulder of a two lane road but not a highway.

I am not a motorcycle owner or rider. Two years ago bought my wife a VW dune buggy street legal and titled and tags. It had straight pipes which I did not like at all. It sits low like a sports car and a very good friend said do not remove the pipes (i did have some baffling installed that reduced it by say 40%). He said when you are driving something hard for people to see, be sure they can hear you. That is why most motorcycle riders run pipes. Makes sense to me, been more tolerant of the cycle dudes since then. But still don't like the noise. Oh, the VW dune buggy with straight pipes was as loud or louder than any Harley I have ever heard. BTW, it is for sale.

How does a car in front of a loud bike hear loud pipes off the pipes come out the back of the cycle?

If loud pipes save lives why do people get hit by trains? I can hear a train horn.

 

[deserteagle71]

In Minnesota utv’s can ride on the official trails and on the shoulder of a two lane road but not a highway.

Riding on the shoulder, at least around here in the desert, causes more trouble than just riding the pavement. Reason? Huge clouds of dust kicked up by riding the shoulder, causing zero visibility on the highway and dusting out everyone along the road. This is one of the reasons cited for Nevada finally allowing UTVs to drive paved state roads.

 

[Rockbadchild]

Riding on the shoulder, at least around here in the desert, causes more trouble than just riding the pavement. Reason? Huge clouds of dust kicked up by riding the shoulder, causing zero visibility on the highway and dusting out everyone along the road. This is one of the reasons cited for Nevada finally allowing UTVs to drive paved state roads.

you save some rubber tho ... but it make sense to avoid the issue you are pointing

 

[ArlyA]

What does this even mean? Banded?

Missed spelled. Should be banned.

 

[Jstpssng]

I can't remember the last time I saw a Harley with stock exhaust. Most around here have no mufflers, just straight pipes. And what's with blipping the throttle when sitting at a stop sign/light?

What does this even mean? Banded?




In Minnesota utv’s can ride on the official trails and on the shoulder of a two lane road but not a highway.




How does a car in front of a loud bike hear loud pipes off the pipes come out the back of the cycle?

If loud pipes save lives why do people get hit by trains? I can hear a train horn.

It's a excuse to be an A-hole, with no basis in fact.

 

[ArlyA]

Gosh, we are so, so happy the machines we've operated a reasonably quiet.

 

[Jstpssng]

Years ago I had to slow down to allow the car in front of me to turn. A kid pulled up beside me on a Honda CB 350 with his GF on back. He had no mufflers, just a straight chrome pipe on each header. As I went up through the gears on my Ranger he matched my speed, revving the engine as he and his GF sat there laughing at me. I just drove...
The road curved ahead so he twisted the throttle... and realized that he wasn't as smart as he thought he was. We had both sped up enough so that little bike couldn't pull away from me the way that he planned. Watching that smug look on his face turn to concern was priceless. Had they just passed me they would have been fine... instead they wanted to play games.

 

[masseyrider]

My parents had a fruit farm. The property at the back was a bush lot that came right up to their property line.
This one kid couple times a day would come down along the edge of the bush and then turn onto their headland and open up his dirt bike.
One time my father was spraying. The trees were heavy with fruit and foliage. The tractor was running hard and the sprayer blower puts out a lot of noise.
No way to see or hear anything coming when you get to the end of a row. Just as he came out of the row this kid zipped by. The old man said how they missed making contact was a miracle.
Day in and day out this kid on the dirt bike kept on zooming by. Final straw came as the peaches were ready to pick and it was hot and dry. He kept on kicking up a plume of dust that was settling on the fruit.
The old man found an old plank, like a 2x12, and drove at least a dozen eave trough nails into it. He then partially buried it in the loose soil were the kid turned onto their land.
We were out there picking and along came dufus and as he made his turn the back wheel of his bike caught at least one of the nails, picked up the board and hit him in the back with it. The old man didn't want to hurt him, just give him a flat or two. Never figured on something like this.
FORTUNATELY it was not the nail side.
Never heard or saw that kid or his bike again.

 

[LHF2019]

More than a motorcycle

How would that be any different than someone cresting a hill in a car, or on a motorcycle

There are some fast idiot drivers in a car/truck, however on our dirt roads and our area it is the utv going faster than cars/trucks and not staying on their side. UTV are also the ones blowing through stop signs. At least the cars/trucks are slowing down and not going through full tilt. These are blind intersections. As for motorcycles......rare to see one on these dirt roads.

Your area may vary.

 

[5030]

guess

I'm stupid and you are holder of all wisdom.... Plenty of HD out there that have straight pipes and were never tuned for the not having a muffler, some don't idle worth a @!#@!!

What are you telling us anyway?

 

[Eagle1]

What are you telling us anyway?

I'm stupid and you are the holder of all wisdom. Let it go, it was in jest with a kernel of truth.

Remember don't argue with an idiot, I'll drag you down to my level and beat you with experience.....

 

[5030]

I'm stupid and you are the holder of all wisdom. Let it go, it was in jest with a kernel of truth.

Remember don't argue with an idiot, I'll drag you down to my level and beat you with experience.....

No, you won't. I just put you on ignore so I don't have to read your drivel. You get to join the elite club of one other idiot.

 

[Eagle1]

It ok I'll read your posts for a laugh or wisdom.
Some folks are so important they can't let someone else be wrong.

 

[wawajake]

First I will say for many years when younger I had a 250 Canam Qualifier Dirt Bike but I only trailered it to dirt rides. .. A few decades ago I lived on a lakefront where a strictly walking trail easement crossed my waterfront 60ft in front of all the houses like mine along that street.....I got tired of one dirt bike rider that would use the walking trail illegally with his high strung two stroke , even after attempts by me and my neighbors to inform nicely.....so one evening during his expected trail ride time, I hid on the trail behind a large maple tree with a 5 gallon pail of water, as he approached to the tree I nailed him with the water right to his chest and head.....he wiped out and I stood over him and simply stated....No motorcycles on this trail !! ....my neighbor on his deck gave me a thumbs up while laughing his butt off. The rider never returned.

 

[gstrom99]

No, you won't. I just put you on ignore so I don't have to read your drivel. You get to join the elite club of one other idiot.

Meanwhile, back on subject...

Local towns allow golf carts too.
The local UTV "clubs" have rallies, in the summer. Often we see a dozen of more zooming down the county and state roads. Add me to the "these don't belong on the roadway" side of this.

 

[riptides]

My problems are with noise. Especially when one has acreage and insists on running on the property lines. We have noise ordnance rules for certain decibel output. When you hear it in your house a quarter mile away...it is an issue. Cannot imagine being closer. Very disrespectful...IMHO.

 

[shooterdon]

My parents had a fruit farm. The property at the back was a bush lot that came right up to their property line.
This one kid couple times a day would come down along the edge of the bush and then turn onto their headland and open up his dirt bike.
One time my father was spraying. The trees were heavy with fruit and foliage. The tractor was running hard and the sprayer blower puts out a lot of noise.
No way to see or hear anything coming when you get to the end of a row. Just as he came out of the row this kid zipped by. The old man said how they missed making contact was a miracle.
Day in and day out this kid on the dirt bike kept on zooming by. Final straw came as the peaches were ready to pick and it was hot and dry. He kept on kicking up a plume of dust that was settling on the fruit.
The old man found an old plank, like a 2x12, and drove at least a dozen eave trough nails into it. He then partially buried it in the loose soil were the kid turned onto their land.
We were out there picking and along came dufus and as he made his turn the back wheel of his bike caught at least one of the nails, picked up the board and hit him in the back with it. The old man didn't want to hurt him, just give him a flat or two. Never figured on something like this.
FORTUNATELY it was not the nail side.
Never heard or saw that kid or his bike again.

Not a very smart way to deal with the problem. In the US, your dad would be sued. It is illegal to set up a trap/obstacle that is intended to, or may, harm people.

Decisions made in anger can bite you in the butt.

Charge the kid with trespassing.