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   / HOLY-COW-COLD-IN-FL #41  
As with many things, there is a point at which it is very difficult or impossible to reverse an action. Example - small leak in a dike.....put a sand bag there....at some point there just aren't enough sandbags. What if AG is right???? Maybe 10 years is a point where it will be much more expensive or impossible to reverse. But keep hammering at the messenger if it makes you feel better. Everybody needs someone to look down on.


Loren

Well, he never backed off the hockey stick graph - and that was based on cooked up data. If somebody lies to get his point across I will not believe him when he says 2=2. And people like AG were predicting ice age in seventies, and the Roma club had all sorts of bleak forecasts - and they missed them all.

Religion it is nothing else, people like to believe into something and some Americans love to blame USA for everything.
 
   / HOLY-COW-COLD-IN-FL #42  
A co-worker was in Colorado Springs yesterday. He said it was 67 degrees outside there. And yesterday temperatures in Northern Maine were warmer than temperatures in southern Florida.

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   / HOLY-COW-COLD-IN-FL #43  
And Europe is colder than ever so what? Out of 140 stations in Czech Republic only 40 or so didn't break the lowest record this month. Does it prove anything? Hardly.

As I said you either believe in it or not - I guess you do, since you published that nice hockey stick graph.
 
   / HOLY-COW-COLD-IN-FL #44  
24 in myakka city this am
 
   / HOLY-COW-COLD-IN-FL #45  
And Europe is colder than ever so what? Out of 140 stations in Czech Republic only 40 or so didn't break the lowest record this month. Does it prove anything? Hardly.

As I said you either believe in it or not - I guess you do, since you published that nice hockey stick graph.

I do Prokop...

I accept what the vast majority of climatologists have concluded on this. I think it's silly to suggest there's a "climate conspiracy" perpetrated by Al Gore or by the climate science community or governments around the world, (including the Czech Republic I'd add. :D)

Arguments to the contrary in my view are largely motivated by ideology, greed or ignorance.
 
   / HOLY-COW-COLD-IN-FL #46  
czechsonofagun- I will put my confidence in NASA - a vast majority of scientists in the world would disagree with you. I predict that if we took the group of people who believe that the moon landing was faked and /or that the world is 4000 years old, you would have a group with a very high percentage who deny any human responsibility. There is a US Senator who read from Genesis to defend his denial. I think your religion argument is lame.

Throughout history religion has been trumped by scientific discovery in every case. (earth isn't flat, sun doesn't go around us, the heart isn't where our consciousness is, many things that were thought to be magic are explained)

As I said in my first post - let's talk about the weather and not draw simple conclusions because its hot or cold today. (and call people names because they draw a different conclusion than you)

Also I said nothing about a hockey stick - I said NASA predicts 2010 will be the warmest year on record (past 130 some years)

Loren
 
   / HOLY-COW-COLD-IN-FL #47  
And I predict that without the recent 8,000 years of global warming, all of North America, Europe, and Asia would still be below 5 miles of solid ice.......just like it was for the previous 250,000 years BA (Before AL). :D:D:D

Perhaps we should thank the Egyptian Sun God, Ra for all these blessings?
 
   / HOLY-COW-COLD-IN-FL #48  
[QUOTEAnd I predict that without the recent 8,000 years of global warming, all of North America, Europe, and Asia would still be below 5 miles of solid ice.......just like it was for the previous 250,000 years BA (Before AL)][/QUOTE]

Real Empirical evidence!:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

It was warmer than today eight thousand years ago!:)
 
   / HOLY-COW-COLD-IN-FL #49  
January 1, 1960, before the Triest dove to the bottom of the Mariana trench, virtually every scientists agreed that there would be no life on the bottom of the ocean. Every bit of data, and evidence at that time was conclusive, it just was not possible. OOOPS! Science was 100% wrong.

The science is not "settled", science is never "settled". We read stories almost daily about how they were wrong about something.

As long as scientists need to "find" something to get funding for their research, as was shown in the leaked e-mails, they will do what ever it takes to get that done. This includes NASA scientists who have also been implicated for faking data. They have to beg for research money like everyone else.

There are polls that can't easily be discredited, like the one CBS did this year of meteorologists, (that would be people who actually dedicated their lives to studying weather, and don't profit from global warming funding), which found most of them don't believe man is causing global warming. I can only imagine if that poll was done by an unbiased group, how high the results would have really been.

Loren, you discount the political aspect of this movement, but that it is what makes it viable.

The green party, PITA, environmental, and animal rights groups, have been praying for a way to have their agenda forced on the world.

They have aligned with the left, who are indoctrinating our children with their political views through public education, the liberal media, and most universities, disguised as saving the world, in the name of, "man made climate change". They know when they manage to manufacture enough supporters, they will be able to get the "We have to act now" card to work, then they can control everything everyone in the world does.

If you have read any of what the extremists who are driving this movement want the world to be like, most of it makes **** Germany look like pretty good.

BTW, I belong to a group of mostly educated professional people who meet weekly, they have family who are professionals, and scientists, and my brother who actually is a scientist for NASA, none of which believe the moon landing was faked, the earth is 4000 years old, or global warming is being caused by man.
 
   / HOLY-COW-COLD-IN-FL #50  
People say that the GW thing is just a way to get rich, someone tell me how to get in on that, I need some money to pay for my healthcare that is going to go through the roof, but at least my taxes are not going to go up. :thumbsup:
 

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