Hay Farmers getting out of farming

[jyoutz]

Irony, in two posts.

To each their own

 

[mred2]

People's opinions on fuel prices is interesting to me. At $2.00 a gallon, it was high. At $3.00, it doesn't need to go any higher. At $4.00, we can't survive. AT $5.00, no, we can't go on. At $4.80, we have some relief, everything is going to be fine.
It is only one part of the total.

 

[lman]

People's opinions on fuel prices is interesting to me. At $2.00 a gallon, it was high. At $3.00, it doesn't need to go any higher. At $4.00, we can't survive. AT $5.00, no, we can't go on. At $4.80, we have some relief, everything is going to be fine.
It is only one part of the total.

The only good thing I see is that I've got an excuse for not mowing the yard.

 

[jyoutz]

People's opinions on fuel prices is interesting to me. At $2.00 a gallon, it was high. At $3.00, it doesn't need to go any higher. At $4.00, we can't survive. AT $5.00, no, we can't go on. At $4.80, we have some relief, everything is going to be fine.
It is only one part of the total.

It’s definitely too high. But I just noted that our gas has dropped to $3.76 this week from almost $4 last week. Diesel has dropped from $5.09 to $4.75. Still about $1-2 per gallon too high, but movement in a better direction.

 

[sea2summit]

People's opinions on fuel prices is interesting to me. At $2.00 a gallon, it was high. At $3.00, it doesn't need to go any higher. At $4.00, we can't survive. AT $5.00, no, we can't go on. At $4.80, we have some relief, everything is going to be fine.
It is only one part of the total.

Also funny that everyone is getting excited about the suspended sales tax in some places. Either they are already stealing road maintenance money for projects that money is not for or the roads are going to have reduced maintenance. Ohh by the way they want you to drive electric so that doesn’t contribute any money (right now) for road maintenance. Anyone not seeing a new federal/state tax on the horizon has blinders on.

 

[sea2summit]

It’s definitely too high. But I just noted that our gas has dropped to $3.76 this week from almost $4 last week. Diesel has dropped from $5.09 to $4.75. Still about $1-2 per gallon too high, but movement in a better direction.

Sounds like sales tax.

 

[Hay Dude]

It’s definitely too high. But I just noted that our gas has dropped to $3.76 this week from almost $4 last week. Diesel has dropped from $5.09 to $4.75. Still about $1-2 per gallon too high, but movement in a better direction.

Yeah when diesel goes from 2.25 to 5.15 in 2 years, then drops back to 4.79, its not a reason to be relieved or happy.
I was happy to find off road for $3.99 today. My tank wasn’t exactly empty, so I ended up only being able to fit about 62G.
$250!

 

[jyoutz]

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Sounds like sales tax.

No they haven’t changed tax. The price per barrel of oil has also dropped in the past week. Don’t know if this is a trend or just a fluctuation. Here’s an interesting article that was in my local paper yesterday:

Scratching the surface

Permian has more untapped resources than any site in nation

www.abqjournal.com

 

[Bill Guenthner]

I haven’t bought chemical fertilizer in years.
Theres a free supply of effective mushroom compost available to us. As much as you want. Heck, some of the suppliers will even spread it for you for free.
I have also seen a sharp increase in the number of small beef operations and horse owners looking for “close to organic, if not 100% organic“ hay.

In MY area, many customers are getting away from chemicals.

Everything is “chemicals.” Nitrogen, potassium, phosphorous, carbon, plants don’t care how the molecules were created as long as they are available in the correct proportions. An NO3 molecule in a bag of fertilizer or in a cow pie is the same exact thing.

 

[Hay Dude]

Everything is “chemicals.” Nitrogen, potassium, phosphorous, carbon, plants don’t care how the molecules were created as long as they are available in the correct proportions. An NO3 molecule in a bag of fertilizer or in a cow pie is the same exact thing.

No doubt, but try telling my customers that LOL
Also, check the price difference between cow pies/mushroom compost and bags of granular N or liquid N.

1. I can rent a turd hearse (like the Artex below) for a month for $1,000 and fertilize over 300 acres.
2. That same 300 acres would cost $15-$20,000 in “chemicals”.

I’d get higher yield from #2, but no way would it cover those expenses.

 

[jyoutz]

No doubt, but try telling my customers that LOL
Also, check the price difference between cow pies/mushroom compost and bags of granular N or liquid N.

1. I can rent a terd hearse for a month for $1,000 and fertilize over 300 acres.
2. That same 300 acres would cost $15-$20,000 in “chemicals”.

I’d get higher yield from #2, but no way would it cover those expenses.

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As long as you have a sufficient supply of manure, that works. But that is typically the limitation on organic farming. It takes a lot of organic material to treat 100 acres. Also most organics may be a good source of nitrogen, but may lack other micronutrients such is iron, etc… The best approach is to test the soil to see what nutrients are excess and deficit and manage accordingly.

 

[Hay Dude]

As long as you have a sufficient supply of manure, that works. But that is typically the limitation on organic farming. It takes a lot of organic material to treat 100 acres. Also most organics may be a good source of nitrogen, but may lack other micronutrients such is iron, etc… The best approach is to test the soil to see what nutrients are excess and deficit and manage accordingly.

Of course and most of my fields are soil tested every 2-3 years.
I have an unlimited source of “organic” fertilizer. I put it in quotes because I honestly dont know if it qualifies as such. I dont sell my hay as “organic”. I advertise it as “natural” or low chemical usage, etc. For all I know it may actually be organic.
Its delivered completely free. Its hay, horse/cow manure, lime, chicken litter and water.

Its not uncommon for me to get 35-50 tri-axle loads delivered to a 40-50 acre hay field ands spread it in 3-4 days.
I have had excellent success with it and it improves my bottom line bigly.

 

[jyoutz]

Of course and most of my fields are soil tested every 2-3 years.
I have an unlimited source of “organic” fertilizer. I put it in quotes because I honestly dont know if it qualifies as such. I dont sell my hay as “organic”. I advertise it as “natural” or low chemical usage, etc. For all I know it may actually be organic.
Its delivered completely free. Its hay, horse/cow manure, lime, chicken litter and water.

Its not uncommon for me to get 35-50 tri-axle loads delivered to a 40-50 acre hay field ands spread it in 3-4 days.
I have had excellent success with it and it improves my bottom line bigly.

If it isn’t broke, it doesn’t need fixed. That’s a lot of loads. You’re lucky to have a source for so much.

 

[JethroB]

Turd hearse, that’s a new one to me.

 

[sea2summit]

Turd hearse, that’s a new one to me.

I heard them called politicians.

 

[jyoutz]

I heard them called politicians.

That would be the vehicle that the politicians ride in.