Hauling a backhoe on a dump truck

[Rawbert]

I'm looking to get a Class 6 (26K max GVWR) medium duty dump truck that can haul my 1967 Case 580 backhoe that weighs around 10K.
I want to haul the hoe in the dump bed not on a trailer because I don't have a CDL so I need to stay within 26K total weight.
I'd only haul the hoe locally, within 50 miles, no highways, no hills as I'm in south Florida so it's all flat land.

I'm thinking a Ford F-800 with a diesel engine.

Is this possible at all?
I guess I'd need to build some sturdy ramps!
Is the bed sturdy enough to hold the uneven load of a backhoe?

 

[kf4uda]

Why do you need ramps?

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XloJil-QouQ

 

[Verticaltrx]

A class 6-7 truck would haul that weight fine. However, you are going to need a pretty long bed to get the loader bucket and backhoe bucket down, which is what's needed for legal transport. It will probably need to be a flatbed so you can easily tie it down. I'd think a minimum of an 18' bed, which is getting pretty long for a flatbed dump. Also, I think to stay under 26K you most likely be looking at a F-600 or F-700, I believe most F-800's had a GVWR of 33K.

 

[Rawbert]

Why do you need ramps?

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XloJil-QouQ

Holy crap, that was awesome!!!

 

[avillahdw]

Just made me pucker watching that!

 

[Looking4new]

Don't forget the stick on the hoe. You still have a maximum height of 13'6" to deal with.

 

[Diamondpilot]

Height is going to be a issue. I would look into farm plates. No weight limitations, no cdl, no inspection, no med card, ect. Here in Indiana we are allowed to travel 150 miles from the registration address as long as we don't cross state lines.

Chris

 

[terryknight]

Why do you need ramps?

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XloJil-QouQ

haha when i saw the thread i thought of this video. glad someone else posted this

Height is going to be a issue. I would look into farm plates. No weight limitations, no cdl, no inspection, no med card, ect. Here in Indiana we are allowed to travel 150 miles from the registration address as long as we don't cross state lines.

Chris

chris gives good advice though check your own FL laws, they might be slightly different

 

[Stimw]

Get the CDL and just make life simple!
I used to drive a single axle dump truck hauling a medium size Hoe on a trailer. I had to put the digger bucket in the back of the truck for it to fit.

 

[Rawbert]

A class 6-7 truck would haul that weight fine. However, you are going to need a pretty long bed to get the loader bucket and backhoe bucket down, which is what's needed for legal transport. It will probably need to be a flatbed so you can easily tie it down. I'd think a minimum of an 18' bed, which is getting pretty long for a flatbed dump. Also, I think to stay under 26K you most likely be looking at a F-600 or F-700, I believe most F-800's had a GVWR of 33K.

I've seen F800s with 20' beds that's why I think it's better than the smaller ones and yes they did come in 26K versions with 7K front and 19K rear axles.
The only problem is I can't seem to find how much an F800 weighs empty..

 

[Rawbert]

Don't forget the stick on the hoe. You still have a maximum height of 13'6" to deal with.

Right, right, I'll have to measure, but I don't think the stick is higher than 8' and the bed is around 4' so it should be fine.

 

[Rawbert]

Height is going to be a issue. I would look into farm plates. No weight limitations, no cdl, no inspection, no med card, ect. Here in Indiana we are allowed to travel 150 miles from the registration address as long as we don't cross state lines.

Chris

I don't think height is going to be an issue as this is a low profile tractor without a cab.
The farm plates are good idea, but I'm planning to do jobs for other people too so I might not be eligible.

 

[Rawbert]

Get the CDL and just make life simple!
I used to drive a single axle dump truck hauling a medium size Hoe on a trailer. I had to put the digger bucket in the back of the truck for it to fit.

I don't want to get a CDL right now, so I need to make this work without.
There's gotta be a 26K truck out there with a 20' dump bed and no more than 15-16k empty weight, I can feel it

 

[bcp]

On and off:

Bruce

 

[TomSeller]

On and off:

YouTube Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsHYIpD5emE

Bruce

Holy Carp !! Impressive.

 

[Diamondpilot]

We have a F 700 dump with a 12' Monroe box. It had a 12,300# empty weight. It's a 391 gas motor. My neighbors brother has a 77 Case 560 Contraction King. No way it's going in the bed.

By the way our F 700 dumps bed is 5 feet plus from the ground. I just loaded it yesterday with fire wood. And the 560 will not go into my pole barn with 12' door. No cab on it either.

I can pull it easily behind my F350 though and he pulls it behind a 2500 Dmax.

Check your measurements. I can't see it fitting due to dipper height or overall width.

Chris

 

[schmism]

Get the CDL and just make life simple!

ant nothing simple about CDL insurance!

farm insurance on the other hand.... whats that got a new piece of equipment... whatever its covered no big deal.

 

[Verticaltrx]

I don't want to get a CDL right now, so I need to make this work without.
There's gotta be a 26K truck out there with a 20' dump bed and no more than 15-16k empty weight, I can feel it

You'll need to look for one with a gas motor and a pretty light bed then. I have a C60 Chevy with a 14' grain box and a 350 gas motor and it weighs 11K. My father has a 4700 IH with a 14' flatbed dump with 4' sides and the DT466 motor and it weighs 15.5K. Both are 25K GVWR models.

 

[wd5mhz]

I would get a Class A CDL it never hurts to have another licensees to fall back on and loading one in the back of a truck is real dangerous if a hydraulic hose brakes or a pin brakes you are in trouble that is a lot of weight things can go wrong in a hurry. But you are on the right road looking at a bigger truck first.

 

[some zilch]

i have a similar sized MF backhoe, and there is no way that is going in the bed of an SA dump truck; especially a small one like an f800 or less. i haul mine on a 24ft HD rollback truck, and the hoe hangs 5+ft off the back of the deck.

how do you get it up in there? (other than climbing it up and in)
how do you chain it down?
is the loader bkt going to be up over the cab?
what kind of tailgate does the dumper have?

please report to the "people hauling stuff wrong" thread