Gutter Covers

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I have no experience with covers for rain gutters. There are trees near the house and the leaves end up plugging the downspouts. What have you tried that works well? Thank you.
 
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I have researched this a lot over the years. No matter what kind of system is being discussed, I keep coming across two common themes:

  1. Good reviews from people that have had them a short time (a season or two)
  2. Bad reviews from people that have had them a few years.
 
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i installed quite a few gutter covers. i detests the type that needs to be slid under the shingles. you always run into a few stubborn shingles that wont release. i installed the screen type, the hidden type, the pop in type. the screens that slides under the shingles are great for those who have pine trees nearby. but car needs to be taken when installing so the ends are covered and looks professional. the pop in -- well just dont get them. they always fall out from light winds. my favorite is the hidden screens where it fits perfect inside the gutters and they use screws on front and back to hold them in place. they dont work well with pine needles around but great with lots of leaves. just a angled simple broom on extension pole to swipe them off if the winds dont blow them off works wonders. no need to climb ladders to clean out messy leaves from gutters.
 
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My house is also surrounded by trees. Had gutters installed last summer and my installer recommended putting commercial downspouts on. The gutter is residential but the downspouts are commercial (bigger). Works very well
 
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Larger downspouts are the way to go that way anything that does get past the gutter guards can usually just flow right out. The standard ones are just to small. I have had good luck with the plastic covers that Menards sells that has the attached screening. They slide up underneath the shingles and clip to the edge of the gutter. As long as the gutters are installed properly they hold up pretty well. But I don't care what you put on you will still have to clean out around the valley areas occasionally.
 
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Ah gawd, you've get me started on gutters. We have pin oaks surrounding our house and they're a gutter nightmare. The spring tassels (look like pipe cleaners) fall into them and the pin oak leaves are long and narrow. Used to clean the gutters by hand twice a year which was a royal pain. Tried a variety of gutter screens but none have worked thus far. Saw a company that makes a micro-porous mesh that covers the tops so that the water goes through but everything else washes off the top. Great idea but at $10+ a linear foot, they're very expensive (screens only - not the gutters themselves).

The wrap around types with the underside slits sound like a great idea. That's what I have right now. The idea is that the slits are on the underside so the water will follow the curve to the underside where it enters the slit and falls into the gutter. The debris will slid off. Yeah, these are the ones you slip up under the shingle. They don't work either as the tassels follow the curve and clog up the slits or the rain is heavy and still runs off the side of the house and not into the gutter.

Ultimately, the type of foliage on your roof dictates the type of gutter you need but the metal micro-porous ones will work in any situation as far as I know - they're just expensive.

Go to a home builders show and you'll see them.
 
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my favorite is the hidden screens where it fits perfect inside the gutters and they use screws on front and back to hold them in place. they dont work well with pine needles around but great with lots of leaves. just a angled simple broom on extension pole to swipe them off if the winds dont blow them off works wonders. no need to climb ladders to clean out messy leaves from gutters.

This is good news -- I had my gutters in SC replaced last winter and chose that screen style. I will soon find out whether my experience matches yours.:)

Steve
 
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All seem to require some maintenance.
Locust and maple leaves are my problem. I installed the expanded resin mesh type inserts in my high gutters. They are triangular in profile and wedge into the gutter, held in place by the rolled gutter edge. Been up to check them a few times and so far [3/4 years], so good. I suspect that they reduce the gutter capacity a little.. but I'm better than I was without them.
On lower gutters, which feed into underground run-offs, I use the wire basket type which insert into the top of the downspout. Material dams form, but are readily seen and remedied.
 
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I have Elko Gutta Guard. Installed over 10 years ago. Haven't cleaned gutters since. I have oak and cedar. some of the clips have fallen off, but the gutta guards have stayed put. Some people cuss them. but I used to have to clean gutters twice a year, but The gutters still work, the downspouts still run. Knock on wood, but it was a cheap solution for me. About $300 investment and the illegal immigrants that put on my new roof also put on the gutta guards. Yes, I contracted with a local company for the roof replacement. They sent one English speaker, the rest only spoke Spanish. They did a good and quick job.
 
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I have no experience with covers for rain gutters. There are trees near the house and the leaves end up plugging the downspouts. What have you tried that works well? Thank you.

Forty years ago I used to clamber up on the roof (three stories off the ground) every fall, clean out the gutters, sit on the ridge and enjoy the view. The house is surrounded by red maples.

With the onslaught of 4 children over the next 12 years that joy decreased.

However every year I made sure the children over about the age of 8 climbed up with me (they were safely roped) and also got to enjoy the view. It did take a while to coax them up the ladder, but they all helped clean gutters, made it to the ridge and were proud.

About 15 years ago we got a new roof, new gutters, and screens that look like what HD sells. My youngest still wanted to go up on the roof to clean gutters every year. I let him but it was not really needed. Seems after he became 25 that desire dropped.

Good screens took away one of the small joys joys of life, but we still have the pictures and memories (somewhere).

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Ultimately, the type of foliage on your roof dictates the type of gutter you need but the metal micro-porous ones will work in any situation as far as I know - they're just expensive.
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That may be the biggest factor. I've one house of the four I own with pine nearby and the pine needles stick in the the screens.
 
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I've had very good luck with broadleaf trees using the screen type snap in gutter covers. Works very well. I have heard that they are not so good with pine needles but have no experience with that. My pole barn gutters are installed such that the covers won't fit. I added the foam that fills the gutter. Works fine for leaves and keeps the water flowing. Unfortunately it collects dirt and allows seeds to sprout. So now I have to "weed the gutters" once a year.
 
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I've been using the open screen gutter guards sold at Home Depot for years with great results. The are cheap, easy to install and they perform flawlessly. The problems I've seen with most of the high dollar gutter guards is they have holes too small to catch all the water and then they direct some water back under the shingles, which leads to rot of the fasica and soffits. All you need for the guards to do is keep out the leaves, small stuff that gets through the screens is so small that it just washed down during heavy rains. Keep It Simple.
 
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Ah gawd, you've get me started on gutters. We have pin oaks surrounding our house and they're a gutter nightmare. The spring tassels (look like pipe cleaners) fall into them and the pin oak leaves are long and narrow. Used to clean the gutters by hand twice a year which was a royal pain. Tried a variety of gutter screens but none have worked thus far. Saw a company that makes a micro-porous mesh that covers the tops so that the water goes through but everything else washes off the top. Great idea but at $10+ a linear foot, they're very expensive (screens only - not the gutters themselves). The wrap around types with the underside slits sound like a great idea. That's what I have right now. The idea is that the slits are on the underside so the water will follow the curve to the underside where it enters the slit and falls into the gutter. The debris will slid off. Yeah, these are the ones you slip up under the shingle. They don't work either as the tassels follow the curve and clog up the slits or the rain is heavy and still runs off the side of the house and not into the gutter. Ultimately, the type of foliage on your roof dictates the type of gutter you need but the metal micro-porous ones will work in any situation as far as I know - they're just expensive. Go to a home builders show and you'll see them.

Many of the metal ones with small holes will create a situation where the water will hydroplane right off the gutter. Especially if there are some leaves stuck to it.
 
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Here's the best way I've found to deal with gutters,

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I drive along slooooly and they get cleaned... It's a fast and easy way to keep them clean...

SR
 
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I've oak, maple and pine trees around my house. Spring brings the Oak pollen, Fall brings the narrow pin oak leaves, Pine needles anytime the wind blows. Nothing worked. Cleaning gutters was miserable with the gutter supports blocking the debris. Finally, last year I replaced all the gutters with Raingo gutters. It's supported by plastic hangers outside the gutter. The open top is unobstructed. Further I didn't close the ends, but angled the ends up after the downspouts.

Now cleaning the gutters is a breeze. Either blow all the debris out with a leaf blower or use a hook made of 1 1/2 PVC pipe to sweep everything out the ends.
 
/ Gutter Covers #17  
I've oak, maple and pine trees around my house. Spring brings the Oak pollen, Fall brings the narrow pin oak leaves, Pine needles anytime the wind blows. Nothing worked. Cleaning gutters was miserable with the gutter supports blocking the debris. Finally, last year I replaced all the gutters with Raingo gutters. It's supported by plastic hangers outside the gutter. The open top is unobstructed. Further I didn't close the ends, but angled the ends up after the downspouts.

Now cleaning the gutters is a breeze. Either blow all the debris out with a leaf blower or use a hook made of 1 1/2 PVC pipe to sweep everything out the ends.

That is an interesting idea.
 
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I gave up on gutter guards. In my experience they don't work and usually hinder the performance of the gutters.
 
/ Gutter Covers #20  
Still blower. The only thing I've found that works. Open gutters for me.
 
 
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