Grapplin' with the 5035

[Bascom]

Oh yeah!!!

Finally had the time this weekend to get it all hooked up and running.
Had a minor hydro blowout with a loose fitting on start up. Simple fix. The hoses were easy to run and secure.

Sure had some fun today using it! Moved a bunch of brush, some stumps, logs, rooted out some vines/small gum trees and cleaned up part of last year's log deck.

Will change out to my box blade as a counterbalance next time. Had the rotary mower hooked up for some food plot work. Things are definitely greening up here in Georgia!


It's a medium duty, 60", two claw, skid steer QD model from The Rakeshop in Florida. Weight is 700 lbs.
www.TheRakeShop.com // call us @ 352-308-7346
Call Sam for pricing.

FYI, I'm really liking my 5035.:thumbsup: Just over 50 hours on it, now. I'm running a box blade, rotary mower, rotary tiller, chisel plow, chain harrow, bog harrow along with the FEL / factory bucket and now the grapple. Lotsa power! The gear shift is easy to operate. Comfort, controls and ergonomics are good. Pre-op checks are easy to do. I really like the telescoping side links-they sure make things easy to hook up! Took it to my dealer last month for the 50 hour service. All was good.

 

[Samandothers]

Nice! Grapples are great equipment. Hope you enjoy yours, I have really been using mine.

 

[wirenut]

Hi Bascom,
nice picts....I am considering a 5035. I have a 72" HD grapple for my SS weighs 870#. I know the higher weight will effect my capacity, but will the 5035 handle this thing and still be useable? Also what size rotary mower do you use?
thanks for any opinions you can share

 

[Bascom]

Wire,
870# shouldn't be a problem considering the specs on the 5035 w/ the 130 FEL. Mine at 700 was fine today. Nary a prob, but I haven't tackled anything REALLY heavy yet. Really depends on what you'll be lifting.

I'm running a 6' rotary mower. No worries with 43 hp at the pto.

 

[NewGuyInNewEngland]

Nice grapplers Bascom. I have some serious pine trees that need chopping up and lifting and those babies would be just the ticket, but I think a backhoe would be the next in line after the plow blade with hydraulics... still got this horrible winter in New England fresh in my mind.... never will get stuck again with my 5035!

Enjoy yours!:thumbsup:

 

[Bascom]

NG, yeah, a backhoe would be handy!

I'm thinking 1 or 2 more rear hyd remotes and a top-n-tilt kit sometime soon. Looking for a used cultipacker as well...

 

[HCJtractor]

you will love your grapple. I have found that the box blade on the rear is a perfect combo. It allows smoothing up things after grappling and is doesn't get the way like a cutter. Sometimes when cleaning up a mess of debris, you can use the grapple like a rake by driving forward and the box lowered lightly will pick up most debris the grapple misses. THen you can carry the grapple load to pile and pull the box load there to dump it and then reverse and push the boxblade load into the same pile with the rear blade of the box.

 

[MtnViewRanch]

NG, yeah, a backhoe would be handy!

I'm thinking 1 or 2 more rear hyd remotes and a top-n-tilt kit sometime soon. Looking for a used cultipacker as well...

If you go with 2 more remotes, I believe that you will have to go with some aftermarket valves, not that that is a bad thing, just something that needs to be considered. I would guess that you could add 3 aftermarket valves for the price of the 2ND OEM valve.

Please keep me in mind when your ready to get your "TnT" kit. I have all the measurements to build your side link.

I see that you have a roll-over box blade, how wide is yours?

 

[Bascom]

Brian,
Have visited your website and liked what I saw. I'll definitely be in contact when the time is right for a t-n-t. However,,,,,

I've got a future TBN'er (son):thumbsup: due in early June and Mama needs a replacement vehicle for the tribe. I'm cleared hot for only fluids and grease until my birthday according to my wife Might even have to wait until Christmas if he likes to eat like I do.

My RO box blade is a Gill 72".

HCJ, I was thinking along the same lines for using the BB while cleaning up debris. It will be much better than having the mower attached!

 

[MtnViewRanch]

Brian,
Have visited your website and liked what I saw. I'll definitely be in contact when the time is right for a t-n-t. However,,,,,

I've got a future TBN'er (son):thumbsup: due in early June and Mama needs a replacement vehicle for the tribe. I'm cleared hot for only fluids and grease until my birthday according to my wife Might even have to wait until Christmas if he likes to eat like I do.

My RO box blade is a Gill 72".

HCJ, I was thinking along the same lines for using the BB while cleaning up debris. It will be much better than having the mower attached!

:cool2: Now you need to figure out how to put a buddy seat on it. :thumbsup: That and a sun shade and you two will be happy campers.

 

[beppington]

I like those big, fat front tires!

I considered a 4035 when I was looking for mine, but my local Mahindra dealer was ... let's just say ... lacking I'm also not sure they offered it with the HST yet, which was a must for me :thumbsup:

 

[IslandTractor]

Wire,
870# shouldn't be a problem considering the specs on the 5035 w/ the 130 FEL. Mine at 700 was fine today. Nary a prob, but I haven't tackled anything REALLY heavy yet. Really depends on what you'll be lifting.

I'm running a 6' rotary mower. No worries with 43 hp at the pto.

870lbs for a grapple (even 700lbs) on a loader that lifts 2700lbs at the pivot pins will significantly reduce net lift capacity. Given that the grapple weight is forward of the pivot pins, it probably reduces net lift by about 125% of grapple weight. That means roughly a 870lb grapple will leave about 1600-1700lbs of net lift capacity. Compare that to 2200-2300 net lift with a 300-350lb grapple.

The big skidsteer grapples are obviously still of use with CUTs but they are way over built for what a CUT can dish out in punishment. Lightweight grapples in the 300-350lbs range (3/8 inch steel, 48 inch width, one upper jaw) seem to work just fine on tractors up to 50hp at least. I have an even lighter duty 48" Millonzi weighing 280lbs that has served very well over the past five years. My Kioti DK40se/KL401 has identical lift capacity as the ML130 and the tractor is about the same weight too. I've slightly bent the upper jaw tines digging out big rocks (easily fixed and reinforced) but otherwise the grapple has tolerated quite a lot of aggressive work without problems.

If I had access to a SS grapple, even one as heavy as 870lbs, I'd surely use it and it would do fine for many tasks. I do however reach the limit of lift capacity with my grapple with large stumps and logs and rocks and obvioiusly a 870lb grapple would reach limits about 500-600lbs.

Having owned a light duty grapple I can say that I'd certainly never bother paying extra for a heavier duty grapple for use on a CUT. I have never wished my grapple were any stronger than it is and I don't have any trouble picking up large amounts of brush or holding logs in place with a single upper arm either.

Everyone loves whatever type and size grapple they own. My point is just that bigger is not better in this case. I think that grapple salesmen are used to selling and sizing SS grapples and that is just a different kettle of fish. A 40 or 50hp SS has a much more powerful loader and is typically used more aggressively in commercial settings than a CUT is. The assumption that a grapple should be the same width as the primary bucket is just wrong unless your main job is collecting loose debris on the ground. Similar HP CUTs do just fine with lighter smaller grapples. I don't recall anyone with a light duty grapple complain on this forum that they wished they'd gotten a bigger grapple. There are some with big grapples who wish they'd gotten smaller. Sometimes small is beautiful And, the cost of the light duty at about the roughly $1000 plus change cost is a nice bonus.

 

[wirenut]

Hi Island,
Yea, I agree with all you stated in your reply. I would only use the grapple for "smaller" jobs or sometimes when using a SS would tear up the yard or someting like that. For heavier jobs, and why I purchased a heavy grapple in the first place, was for use with my 90HP NH SS. On that machine, that thing will will lift several 6"-8" or so trees in one bite. Nice picts!!

 

[3rdlittlepig]

Love the pics fellas!!! Can't tell you how much people can learn with pics ( and video). Grapple away!!,

 

[IslandTractor]

Love the pics fellas!!! Can't tell you how much people can learn with pics ( and video). Grapple away!!,

You know what they say, a picture is worth 3.14159 words!

 

[Bascom]

Great pix Island!

I need to get some more as well, but get so wrapped up in tractoring and having fun that I forget to stop and take pix.

Got a few hours of grappling in this past weekend. Have definitely improved my abilities, especially with stumping. Too much fun!

 

[IslandTractor]

Great pix Island!

I need to get some more as well, but get so wrapped up in tractoring and having fun that I forget to stop and take pix.

Got a few hours of grappling in this past weekend. Have definitely improved my abilities, especially with stumping. Too much fun!

I keep a retired digital camera on my tractor so if I ever see something I need to record for my own purposes or as an example for TBN I just grab it out of the cupholder. I do post a lot of photos here but use the photos mostly as a reminder of maintenance, repair or project items I need to deal with. My digital memory is a heck of a lot more accurate and reliable than either my brain or a piece of paper. The photos also are useful in domestic politics as I can show SWMBO exactly what I have accomplished while not working on her prioritized honey do list.

 

[Bascom]

Yep, understood when it comes to the HouseHold 06 unit.
Mine has been slow to understand the connection between tractor "work" and "play". Fortunately, the proof is in the visuals!

She'll probably really get excited when things dry up enough around our pond so I can remove some larger stumps

 

[mikesawz]

Hey Island,
I am new to TBN, but have been following TBN since early this year. I have my eye on a new 4035 with 120 FEL for some wood/timber work on our property. Like your insight on the loader/grapple weight issue. Love your grapple pics. What make and model is the one on your 5035? I have not settled on the 4035 w/loader as I beleive dealer price of 24,900 is a bit high. Although the dealer is discounting several implements and filling the tires at NC.

 

[IslandTractor]

I'll let Bascom respond regarding the JD models. My tractor is a Kioti DK40se. Just to help you compare, my KL401 loader lifts about 2700lbs at the pivot pins. My grapple is a 48" Millonzi weighing about 300lbs. Similar in construction to the light duty Gator/Markham.