Grapple grapple uses and companies
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jpm
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jpm
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jpm
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if any one is looking for the bolt on grapple for a 60" mehandria
bucket i have one
bucket i have one
Those pictures are great. Thank you for the time you put in taking and posting those pictures. That is very similar work to what I will be doing with tree prunings and smaller branches. I am thinking the 72" with 9 tines would be a good match for that. Yet I also have a tremendous amount of heavy logs and brush to move also, like your last picture shows.
Your tractor is a lot heavier than mine. My tractor, although 50 gross HP, is under 4000lbs (before loader). Tires are not loaded. Even with boxblade on back, I am concerned about the weight of a 72" std duty with large loads. But I am also concerned about the toughness of the light duty over time.
I am trying to get the weights of each unit from the company.
Your tractor is a lot heavier than mine. My tractor, although 50 gross HP, is under 4000lbs (before loader). Tires are not loaded. Even with boxblade on back, I am concerned about the weight of a 72" std duty with large loads. But I am also concerned about the toughness of the light duty over time.
I am trying to get the weights of each unit from the company.
Jim,
Worksaver seems to be an impressive organization from the looks of their products and the wbesite info. Very detailed.
I think I am stuck somewhere between the size of the one you mentioned for 40hp, and needing one a little wider with more tines for picking up acres of prunings and scattered branches. I also like the idea of two cylinders. But the ANBO type sizes and weights frighten me.
Thanks for the comments.
Worksaver seems to be an impressive organization from the looks of their products and the wbesite info. Very detailed.
I think I am stuck somewhere between the size of the one you mentioned for 40hp, and needing one a little wider with more tines for picking up acres of prunings and scattered branches. I also like the idea of two cylinders. But the ANBO type sizes and weights frighten me.
Thanks for the comments.
Haoleguy
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ScottOkla - I have the Worksaver with the 2 separate grapple clamps on my JD5325. Great unit and heavy duty. The weight did surprise me slightly. For larger log loads I carry them low until I reach the pile where I do raise them and add to the pile. My BH and tractor size provides stability with the larger loads. Since this unit makes quick work of brush/branches I'm kicking myself for not getting it sooner. In terms of picking smaller straight brush bunches this unit would not be the ticket. The Worksave ris not the cheapest but a good value for the quality.
CJ4
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Heck yeah we're interested always in your pics!!! /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
CT_Tree_Guy
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Scott -
I also have a 5030HST that I use in my tree business. I looked at a lot of grapples and went with the Bradco (ATI). I'm very happy with it. It holds a lot and is very rugged. It weighs about 800 lbs., but even mounted on a quick-attach I can pick up almost anything I need to. Sometimes I think about maybe having a lighter one, but it's done all I need it to and is great for grabbing VERY large mouthfuls of brush. Picks up logs just great. A 22-24" diam. 10.5' long oak log is about the max. That comes out to at least 2,500 pounds including the grapple, and I know the loader is rated for 1,876, but with a little "clean and jerk" action (curling the grapple while backing up, then lifting the loader arms, all in one smooth motion), I'm pretty sure that's what I'm actually lifting. Maybe the loader is rated a little conservatively.
Whatever grapple you end up with, here's a tip that really helped me out. My tractor came from the factory with the relief pressure set quite low, about 200 psi below spec. My tractor guy added a shim or two to the relief valve to bring it up to where it's supposed to be, and it made a very noticeable difference. It went from "hmm, this loader seems a little weak" to "ok, now we're talkin'".
I hear you on not wanting to load your tires, I didn't either. I have a rear grapple that also weighs about 800 lbs. and I can just about max out the loader and still keep the rear tires on the ground. Sometimes I have to go to 4WD to get traction though. I know that's tough on the front driveline, so I go easy when I'm in that mode.
Good luck, John D.
I also have a 5030HST that I use in my tree business. I looked at a lot of grapples and went with the Bradco (ATI). I'm very happy with it. It holds a lot and is very rugged. It weighs about 800 lbs., but even mounted on a quick-attach I can pick up almost anything I need to. Sometimes I think about maybe having a lighter one, but it's done all I need it to and is great for grabbing VERY large mouthfuls of brush. Picks up logs just great. A 22-24" diam. 10.5' long oak log is about the max. That comes out to at least 2,500 pounds including the grapple, and I know the loader is rated for 1,876, but with a little "clean and jerk" action (curling the grapple while backing up, then lifting the loader arms, all in one smooth motion), I'm pretty sure that's what I'm actually lifting. Maybe the loader is rated a little conservatively.
Whatever grapple you end up with, here's a tip that really helped me out. My tractor came from the factory with the relief pressure set quite low, about 200 psi below spec. My tractor guy added a shim or two to the relief valve to bring it up to where it's supposed to be, and it made a very noticeable difference. It went from "hmm, this loader seems a little weak" to "ok, now we're talkin'".
I hear you on not wanting to load your tires, I didn't either. I have a rear grapple that also weighs about 800 lbs. and I can just about max out the loader and still keep the rear tires on the ground. Sometimes I have to go to 4WD to get traction though. I know that's tough on the front driveline, so I go easy when I'm in that mode.
Good luck, John D.
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John: I am a little confused. In your post you said you went with the "Bradco (ATI)". I thought they were two different companies. Can you explain which one you got please, and how you like it? Thanks.
CT_Tree_Guy
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Slippy:
Glad to hear someone else is confused besides me, I like company. Of course, it was my fault for confusing you. There are, or were, 2 different tractor-related companies, each called ATI. I just poked around on some Bradco sites, and some of them still had URL's that included "ATI" in them, but I think they're now using "Palladin Equipment" as the name of their "parent company" or whatever instead of ATI. Sorry about that, immediately after posting that I realized I should have left ATI out of it altogether.
My grapple is not the "Preseeder" ATI grapple, let's just call it a Bradco, the same guys who make the backhoes etc. I really like mine a lot - as I said, it's built very well and uses an excellent design that lets you grab really big logs (I just picked up a 30" diameter, 8' oak log today) and HUGE amounts of brush. I paid around $2800 for it, worth every penny. Not saying there aren't better ones, but Bradco has a good reputation and I can see why. The cylinders have a lot of clamping power, too. I just calculated the weight of another log I picked up today - a 26" diam. 10 1/2 foot red oak log that my chart tells me weighed 2,436 lbs. I picked it up like I pick up most logs, by coming down on it from above then curling the grapple.
I'm going to posting a bunch of pictures of it (tonight I hope) in Kubota Owning/Operating, check 'em out.
Hope this helps and sorry about the confusion - John
Glad to hear someone else is confused besides me, I like company. Of course, it was my fault for confusing you. There are, or were, 2 different tractor-related companies, each called ATI. I just poked around on some Bradco sites, and some of them still had URL's that included "ATI" in them, but I think they're now using "Palladin Equipment" as the name of their "parent company" or whatever instead of ATI. Sorry about that, immediately after posting that I realized I should have left ATI out of it altogether.
My grapple is not the "Preseeder" ATI grapple, let's just call it a Bradco, the same guys who make the backhoes etc. I really like mine a lot - as I said, it's built very well and uses an excellent design that lets you grab really big logs (I just picked up a 30" diameter, 8' oak log today) and HUGE amounts of brush. I paid around $2800 for it, worth every penny. Not saying there aren't better ones, but Bradco has a good reputation and I can see why. The cylinders have a lot of clamping power, too. I just calculated the weight of another log I picked up today - a 26" diam. 10 1/2 foot red oak log that my chart tells me weighed 2,436 lbs. I picked it up like I pick up most logs, by coming down on it from above then curling the grapple.
I'm going to posting a bunch of pictures of it (tonight I hope) in Kubota Owning/Operating, check 'em out.
Hope this helps and sorry about the confusion - John
CT_Tree_Guy
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Slippy - Sorry the pics aren't up yet, tearing my hair out trying to figure out how to resize the #*@*$! things. Will get them up as soon as I can, ideally before the computer gets thrown out the window.
