Got asked to bid a very unusual project

[tradosaurus]

too much risk. I would pass.

 

[Hay Dude]

too much risk. I would pass.

I appreciate the opinion.
I am going to proceed with bidding because I have a flaw of loving dangerous, risky work (farming & land clearing).

 

[scootr]

I don't think he can pass without passing it on to somebody capable of doing the job. He's their go to guy and they are probably a very good client.

 

[MossRoad]

I would do exactly that, but here’s the difference on my project (IF it becomes my project).

1. Rivers have current. If you hook to a larger log and it breaks free, the current could drastically multiply the resistance pulling the log. That could be a disaster. You had the benefit of no current in a lake.
2. You also had the benefit of not having a log jam. When your logs were pulled across the lake, there was no risk of all of them breaking free and floating down a river, doing possible property damage.

I am still thinking wait until river is wadeable and cutting logs off a small piece at a time and letting them float away. Still has risk, but little overhead cost and smaller chance it all breaks free at once.

I know you know the difference between a lake and moving water. Moving water is a whole 'nuther animal.

 

[Hay Dude]

I could just see an 80’ tree breaking loose and pulling anchor truck into the water….

yeah, no thanks.

 

[groundcover]

Make sure to have plenty of cameras set up, the UTube views will more than pay for a new truck, crane and excavator!

 

[airbiscuit]

Instead of cable, I would use a rope strong enough to pull the item, but weak enough to break before it pulls your machine into the river,

 

[Hay Dude]

Instead of cable, I would use a rope strong enough to pull the item, but weak enough to break before it pulls your machine into the river,

That’s all I have anyway (rope), but point taken. I do have winch cable, but I’m hesitant to use a vehicle to pull to the rivers bank.

 

[Peter 315]

Use both attach the cable to the rope then you can cut the rope if it starts to pull the truck..

 

[Hay Dude]

Use both attach the cable to the rope then you can cut the rope if it starts to pull the truck..

And much easier to rope logs while in the water than cable them….

I like it.

 

[CliffordK]

Yep, blow it up while firewood size chunks of wood fly through those giant windows LOL

Easy! Just point the dynamite AWAY from the windows! Let me know if you need and further advice...

You need to contact the Oregon State Highway Department. They are experts on such matters.

 

[MossRoad]

 

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How far down does that jam go (depth into the river)? How much are you expected to remove - just the logs, or the built up sandbar?

I realize that this thread is an attempt to mitigate the following, but
this guy got mocked mercilessly for this speech but he had a really good point:

I'm still in the camp of "this is too big a job". Removing the logs on top of the sandbars removes the unsightly mess, but it's the tip of the iceberg and next year it's going to start piling up again. Sure, the logs on top catch other logs that much more easily, but you're talking a very short term "solution", and the solution is only a solution to the immediately visible problem and not the root.

Definitely seems like the liability is on the bridge; if I was the rich museum, I'd sue the RR company to make them take care of their bridge and ensure they understand the huge liability they have.

Meanwhile, if you insist on taking the job, perhaps there's some US Army floating bridge kind of thing that's available ... somewhere... (link)?

in the "drought months" shouldn't be a problem to set that across the river, and you could get a decent excavator on it.

 

[airbiscuit]

Might as well hire Moses to part the waters.

 

[MossRoad]

 

[MossRoad]

This might give you some ideas....

 

[Jchonline]

Rent a river barge, rent an extended arm excacator with hydraulic thumb. If barge long enough you can scoop directly onto barge. Carry to dock/port and offload on truck.

 

[Hay Dude]

How far down does that jam go (depth into the river)? How much are you expected to remove - just the logs, or the built up sandbar?

I realize that this thread is an attempt to mitigate the following, but
this guy got mocked mercilessly for this speech but he had a really good point:

I'm still in the camp of "this is too big a job". Removing the logs on top of the sandbars removes the unsightly mess, but it's the tip of the iceberg and next year it's going to start piling up again. Sure, the logs on top catch other logs that much more easily, but you're talking a very short term "solution", and the solution is only a solution to the immediately visible problem and not the root.

Definitely seems like the liability is on the bridge; if I was the rich museum, I'd sue the RR company to make them take care of their bridge and ensure they understand the huge liability they have.

Meanwhile, if you insist on taking the job, perhaps there's some US Army floating bridge kind of thing that's available ... somewhere... (link)?
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in the "drought months" shouldn't be a problem to set that across the river, and you could get a decent excavator on it.

OMG


You really ”jumped the shark” with this one

Its a small pile of logs!!!!

Army floating bridge? C’mon bro.

 

[Hay Dude]

Maybe the Russians could hit it with precision guided munitions.
Like a predator drone!

 

[quicksandfarmer]

When I visited Gettysburg, I was told that after the battle there were so many bodies floating in the river that they piled up against a bridge, damming the river and threatening to flood the town. In order to save the town men had to swim into the river, at night, and clear the bodies.